1 00:00:24,890 --> 00:00:09,530 oh 2 00:00:30,509 --> 00:00:29,189 [Music] 3 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:30,519 wow 4 00:00:35,830 --> 00:00:33,840 remix thank you so much 5 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:35,840 thunderbird i don't know the digits 6 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:38,239 charlotte but uh we could we can put her 7 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:40,320 in the show notes actually she she will 8 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:42,160 be in the show notes now because she did 9 00:00:47,110 --> 00:00:45,120 she's got the the song so uh her and her 10 00:00:50,229 --> 00:00:47,120 work will be listed in the show notes 11 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:50,239 wow that is so dope man what's up man 12 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:51,840 welcome back to calling all beings i'm 13 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:54,399 your host dj along with my co-host 14 00:00:59,189 --> 00:00:57,280 the man who may experience a nickname 15 00:01:00,229 --> 00:00:59,199 change we'll get to that later money 16 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:00,239 nathan 17 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:05,750 what is happening i just got here i'm 18 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:07,680 getting new nicknames wait till chris 19 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:10,000 gets here wait till chris gets in here 20 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:12,560 what's up nathan how's it going how are 21 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:13,280 you 22 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:17,280 i'm doing so much better now i feel so 23 00:01:21,109 --> 00:01:19,360 much better now that you guys are here 24 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:21,119 because i was a little exhausted to be 25 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:23,119 in the ocean today but you know when you 26 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:24,840 see kevin how can you really be 27 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:27,360 exhausted okay hi flares kevin how's our 28 00:01:31,109 --> 00:01:28,479 humorist 29 00:01:34,069 --> 00:01:31,119 i'm good hello everyone how are you 30 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:34,079 today good it's so good to see you it's 31 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:36,400 good to see me too i know i'm sure you 32 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:37,840 like you look in the mirror and go wow 33 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:39,520 damn it i look good today 34 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:42,320 um same thing that deb probably says uh 35 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:43,920 are are uap 36 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:47,680 a researcher extraordinaire she has she 37 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:49,439 really has no equal to be honest with 38 00:01:53,830 --> 00:01:52,560 you uh in trying to appraise her the 39 00:01:55,910 --> 00:01:53,840 other day probably took like five 40 00:01:58,469 --> 00:01:55,920 minutes on twitter spaces the other day 41 00:02:00,469 --> 00:01:58,479 hi deb i'm glad you guys can't see me be 42 00:02:02,550 --> 00:02:00,479 red right now oh 43 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:02,560 you're you know what you're lovely and 44 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:04,960 you're just such a force multiplier uh 45 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:06,719 somebody who looks almost as good as i 46 00:02:10,949 --> 00:02:08,959 do 47 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:10,959 just kidding uh somebody 48 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:14,080 is our newest member of 49 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:17,760 of cab who is wearing floral and i i met 50 00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:20,239 the requirement lou elizondo can listen 51 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:22,959 to directions i can listen to directions 52 00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:24,959 apparently they're 53 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:27,599 i kevin can listen there's color he's 54 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:30,720 wearing color yes and nathan's like no 55 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:33,040 i'm gonna be steve jobs yeah so i can 56 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:34,879 only do one mode yeah the uap 57 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:38,160 experiencer i'll send him a a shirt and 58 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:40,000 then he'll wear it i'm sure i'll send 59 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:43,120 him a hawaiian the uap experiencer steph 60 00:02:47,110 --> 00:02:44,560 how are you man 61 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:47,120 so wonderful to see you guys and be 62 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:49,680 among all of us together and not only 63 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:51,760 that but welcoming chris i just saw 64 00:02:55,589 --> 00:02:53,200 chris two weeks ago at the ufo 65 00:02:57,270 --> 00:02:55,599 disclosure symposium so it's been you 66 00:02:59,589 --> 00:02:57,280 know a minute but i'm looking forward to 67 00:03:02,229 --> 00:02:59,599 seeing chris and what he has to say and 68 00:03:04,470 --> 00:03:02,239 you know you all look beautiful and deb 69 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:04,480 your avatar is on point today 70 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:05,440 on point 71 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:07,920 thank you you are welcome my dear play 72 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:09,840 declared it by hair 73 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,400 it looks lovely and and who did the 74 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:14,400 highlights any we'll get to that later 75 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:15,920 uh all right 76 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:18,959 we gonna bring in the man of the hour 77 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:21,440 he's been doing big things with the uap 78 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:23,920 society they don't flew this man from 79 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:27,519 portugal over to utah just to speak 80 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:29,599 people won't even let they won't even 81 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:31,200 bring me from the back of the house to 82 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:33,040 the front of the house to speak 83 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:34,799 i'm going to tell you what we are so 84 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:37,360 happy to bring in my u.s air force 85 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:38,720 brother 86 00:03:43,509 --> 00:03:41,280 put your hands together for the viper 87 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:43,519 pilot f-16 88 00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:53,910 man 89 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:58,400 good chris did you did is that what you 90 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,760 were doing 91 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:01,680 did you say oh i'm gonna go tuck in the 92 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:04,319 kids but you like did some of this 93 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:07,040 could you tell yes yes i can tell yes 94 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:09,680 yeah chris my brother 95 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:12,159 there's a lot riding on this show today 96 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:13,680 are you aware that 97 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:15,360 no you're not 98 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:16,959 okay 99 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:20,720 um for some time now we have 100 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:23,600 you know i i gave this this moniker to 101 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:26,000 nathan and people seem to like it 102 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:27,680 where we call him money nathan and the 103 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:31,040 reason that i gave him that is because 104 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,240 when he opens his lips to speak 105 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:36,479 what comes out is like my it it's like 106 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:37,919 money in the bank i don't care who 107 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:39,440 you're interviewing i don't care who 108 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:41,360 you're talking to i don't care if he's 109 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:43,199 trying to counsel somebody 110 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,560 it's money if it's a meeting we're doing 111 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:48,479 no like when i say not the kind of 112 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:50,000 counseling you got when you screwed up 113 00:04:54,790 --> 00:04:52,000 in flight i mean like someone that's 114 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:54,800 asking for help and and and wants you 115 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:57,199 know wants somebody to speak with 116 00:05:02,390 --> 00:04:59,840 but we may depending on what you present 117 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:02,400 today we may change his name back to nft 118 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:04,000 nathan 119 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:06,080 so there's a lot riding on this it was 120 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:09,039 nft nathan it was originally we've toyed 121 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:11,039 around with it i mean but 122 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:13,440 he'll decide today is he going to be 123 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:15,360 here to fort known 124 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:20,710 all right 125 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:23,120 man your name's a scam i'm actually an 126 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:29,270 welcome back mr lato uh we want to talk 127 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:32,160 about uap society because 128 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,639 i'm so proud of you as an air force 129 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:36,800 brother and i i expressed this to you on 130 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:38,880 the phone so this is nothing that you 131 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:41,039 haven't heard before but the audience 132 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:42,960 and nathan's heard it and maybe even the 133 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:45,199 cabbies have heard me say this as well 134 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:49,120 but um to go from hey i'm gonna go and 135 00:05:55,670 --> 00:05:52,960 retire in portugal and surf and raise my 136 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:55,680 kids here for a more relaxed lifestyle 137 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:57,440 and them telling you to make a youtube 138 00:06:01,189 --> 00:05:59,680 channel and now you have an organization 139 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:01,199 to study uaps 140 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:03,600 oh my god 141 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:06,880 yeah that was the plan 142 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:13,749 and and so you know can you explain to 143 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:16,319 people you know sort of where you're at 144 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:19,600 now um explain like how you're organized 145 00:06:24,070 --> 00:06:22,240 who are the players in uap society and 146 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:24,080 what are their roles i know about alexia 147 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:25,520 i wish you would have drug him out here 148 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:27,520 today because i like to talk to that cat 149 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:29,759 great hair also but can you explain him 150 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,759 a link he may he may be available you 151 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:33,120 could uh 152 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:35,919 uh i don't think he's following me 153 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:37,919 you you can send him a link because i'm 154 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:39,600 not connected with him on anything i 155 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:40,479 don't 156 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:42,160 yeah well either way we can get him uh 157 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:44,560 next time forward yes um go ahead yeah 158 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:47,520 basically mentioned uh alexei so there's 159 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:49,759 uh why don't we just start with the main 160 00:06:53,589 --> 00:06:51,520 the company essentially that 161 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:53,599 inadvertently formed you know i didn't 162 00:06:57,029 --> 00:06:55,759 want employees and i didn't want a boss 163 00:06:57,990 --> 00:06:57,039 you know 164 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:58,000 um 165 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:59,199 yeah because it was so awesome not 166 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:00,880 having any employees and not having a 167 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:03,680 boss at the same time you know 168 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:05,440 uh because you know if you have 169 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:06,960 employees what you find is you work for 170 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,479 them ultimately you ask you know who are 171 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,880 you working for it's like well 172 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:12,240 all those people 173 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:13,120 you know 174 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:16,319 um but for us it'd be so me and my um 175 00:07:20,309 --> 00:07:18,080 basically my roommate from the academy 176 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:20,319 uh he's he's still a government employee 177 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:23,199 so he doesn't highlight who he is but 178 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:25,120 he's basically runs all the finances 179 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:27,440 he's our cfo 180 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:30,880 and then the artist is colin stone and 181 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:33,520 seastone basically lives my friend moved 182 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:36,000 out here from from san francisco he has 183 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:38,319 a design company he's had it for 184 00:07:43,749 --> 00:07:41,840 35 years a very successful designer 185 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:43,759 and so he's turns out he's an amazing 186 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:45,440 digital artist 187 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:47,759 and he's so he's made all these ai 188 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:50,160 creations we actually he made two other 189 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:52,240 collections like i hired well he 190 00:07:57,029 --> 00:07:54,879 volunteered to help and i got him to or 191 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:57,039 asked him to create another collection 192 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:58,479 it's actually our second collection that 193 00:08:02,629 --> 00:08:00,160 nobody's seen 194 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:02,639 but we have that on the back burner um 195 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:04,160 because right now he went on his own and 196 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:07,280 made these ai so artificial intelligence 197 00:08:10,309 --> 00:08:08,319 basically 198 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:10,319 he made 10 042 of these things he made 199 00:08:13,589 --> 00:08:12,080 many more actually probably made 20 to 200 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:13,599 30 000 201 00:08:17,110 --> 00:08:15,440 and then we just uh he trimmed them down 202 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:17,120 essentially and added all these 203 00:08:21,749 --> 00:08:18,800 different metadata 204 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:21,759 uh these tags and etc so basically 205 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:23,120 that's that's the art so those are the 206 00:08:27,189 --> 00:08:24,000 main 207 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:27,199 three founders me my buddy jim and um 208 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:28,560 colin stone 209 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:31,039 and then we have alex 210 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:33,360 he is from space tokens so he's actually 211 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:35,599 the coder he was a patron of mine 212 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:37,519 initially so he's a patron signed up to 213 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:39,360 the later files channel and i've been 214 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:40,800 talking about you know i talked to my 215 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:42,959 patrons hey uh this is what's going on 216 00:08:46,870 --> 00:08:45,200 i'm working on these nft projects 217 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:46,880 and a few guys he was one of them said 218 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:48,720 hey you know i have my own company i'm 219 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:51,680 working on as well and so he volunteered 220 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:52,640 sort of 221 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:55,120 right he said i can help uh and then i 222 00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:56,160 just 223 00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:57,680 but i had to kind of convince him you 224 00:09:01,509 --> 00:08:59,279 know it'd be like all right everybody 225 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:01,519 this is the time hey chris somebody in 226 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:04,560 the chat someone named horseloverfat is 227 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:07,120 asking who's his name ai designer dude 228 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:08,480 from san francisco 229 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:11,040 is that someone connected with you 230 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:14,240 yeah colin stone that is his yep he's 231 00:09:18,389 --> 00:09:16,480 the artist okay there you go 232 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:18,399 we i mean we keep it kind of you want to 233 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:20,720 keep it mysterious somewhat you know to 234 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:22,720 be who the artist is 235 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:24,640 right so it's his call sign is c stone 236 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:26,080 but i know right now we're trying to get 237 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:28,000 open communication out 238 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:30,160 so colin stone he's a founder along with 239 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:31,279 me 240 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:32,240 uh 241 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:35,279 yeah and then alex is our coder from 242 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:36,560 space tokens 243 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:38,720 okay so that's the four main main 244 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:40,480 players and then we have our uh 245 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:42,480 additional so you know we have 246 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:44,480 additional designers and artists 247 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:46,640 that work with colin that work for him 248 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:49,040 or through him or through us we have uh 249 00:09:55,030 --> 00:09:51,760 sarah okay i'm sure you've seen sarah on 250 00:09:57,750 --> 00:09:55,040 the discord sc let it shine so she's my 251 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:57,760 portuguese portuguese uh she was virtual 252 00:10:01,350 --> 00:09:59,120 assistant but she's a community 253 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:01,360 operations manager 254 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:03,600 so she lives here in portugal actually 255 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:05,120 further north she doesn't live down 256 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:06,240 south 257 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:08,560 um so it's great to have her on 258 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:10,720 basically the same time zone as me and 259 00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:13,120 and also i want to employ local people 260 00:10:17,990 --> 00:10:15,279 you know if i have to have sure if i 261 00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:18,000 have to have employees then we'll do uh 262 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:20,079 local as much as possible 263 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:22,399 um and now you know all the ambassadors 264 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:25,680 so two are here right we have uh nathan 265 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:26,800 dj 266 00:10:31,590 --> 00:10:29,920 we have um alexei is another ambassador 267 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:31,600 artist and tony 268 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:32,800 yeah 269 00:10:39,910 --> 00:10:37,920 he's a man i'm so glad i met him at uh 270 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:39,920 disclosure symposium steph you're there 271 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:42,399 he he's awesome man 272 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:44,959 solid dude love that guy yeah 273 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:47,920 interviewing that guy was like 274 00:10:51,430 --> 00:10:49,920 uh it's hard to describe but when you 275 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:51,440 when you start i mean you know you're a 276 00:10:55,910 --> 00:10:53,920 content creator he's just 277 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:55,920 i i can't he's just one of those guys 278 00:11:00,630 --> 00:10:58,959 never levels ahead to me yeah but uh 279 00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:00,640 let me pass it over to nathan so i don't 280 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:03,440 hog up all the air in this joint uh yeah 281 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:04,399 money 282 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:06,959 or yeah hey chris so uh very excited to 283 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:09,120 have you back with us and excited in 284 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:10,880 what you guys are doing 285 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:13,279 with uap society 286 00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:14,720 if we were to kind of distill the 287 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:17,279 concept down to the basics you know how 288 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,800 would you explain what it is that you're 289 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:19,920 trying to do 290 00:11:25,430 --> 00:11:23,120 and why you chose going a crypto route 291 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:25,440 to do it i think that's kind of a big 292 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:27,360 question that people have is and encrypt 293 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:29,200 us so new to most folks 294 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:32,240 so why uh kind of form the organization 295 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:35,279 and why use crypto as a way to to kind 296 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:39,279 of organize everybody and fund it 297 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:41,120 yeah i mean that's the that's the 298 00:11:45,509 --> 00:11:43,200 million-dollar question um so basically 299 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:45,519 it's it's because 300 00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:47,120 we can't get the information right so 301 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:48,880 there's basically an argument is if you 302 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:50,560 really have 303 00:11:54,389 --> 00:11:52,639 let's say extraterrestrial life here 304 00:11:56,550 --> 00:11:54,399 right let's just say for instance that 305 00:11:58,069 --> 00:11:56,560 that it's here and we don't know about 306 00:12:00,629 --> 00:11:58,079 it 307 00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:00,639 like something's messed up is going on 308 00:12:03,829 --> 00:12:02,320 right i mean something seriously screwed 309 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:03,839 up is going on 310 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:04,560 so 311 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:07,519 it just for me it means i can't trus or 312 00:12:12,230 --> 00:12:10,000 it would imply that we can't trust the 313 00:12:13,509 --> 00:12:12,240 centralized repositories of information 314 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:13,519 that are coming out 315 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:14,959 so either 316 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:16,880 they don't have the information and they 317 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:19,440 can't tell us right or more likely they 318 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:20,880 have a lot of information and they're 319 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:21,839 not 320 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:29,990 whatever it is the end result is you 321 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:31,440 know after 80 years we still have the 322 00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:33,200 same level of evidence 323 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:35,519 you know we have we had radar returns of 324 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:36,959 them going hype you know hypersonic 325 00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:39,120 radar returns we had people saying they 326 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:41,920 saw all these things we had pictures 327 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:44,480 you know we had so and now we have 328 00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:46,800 essentially the same data you know 329 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:48,639 really we don't have much more there 330 00:12:52,069 --> 00:12:50,560 hasn't been any much more release i 331 00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:52,079 guess biological effects you know we 332 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:53,839 didn't really have that like effects on 333 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:56,399 humans so there is some additional stuff 334 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:57,920 but that's the basic argument is that 335 00:13:02,389 --> 00:12:59,760 you have to go 336 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:02,399 avoiding the centralized repositories of 337 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:04,480 information essentially 338 00:13:08,790 --> 00:13:07,040 so that's why we need decentralized is 339 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:08,800 really to to 340 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:10,639 get around those 341 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,959 information embargoes well why are 342 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:14,880 for whatever reason they're there if if 343 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:17,360 it's there just because they the stigma 344 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:18,800 you know they just can't believe it's 345 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:20,320 true so they don't actually investigate 346 00:13:24,790 --> 00:13:23,360 it or if it's there because they know or 347 00:13:25,590 --> 00:13:24,800 parts of the government know that it's 348 00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:25,600 true 349 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:27,839 but they don't want to share it because 350 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:29,760 it it would give away some advantage 351 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:31,600 that they have right if you have if you 352 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:33,040 have alien technology you have 353 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:35,600 information that aliens exist now you're 354 00:13:39,269 --> 00:13:37,760 going to have a worldwide program right 355 00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:39,279 probably a secret worldwide program 356 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:40,399 where you're out there looking for this 357 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:42,399 stuff that's what i would be doing right 358 00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:44,160 if i was planning to try and 359 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:46,160 give myself an advantage 360 00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:48,720 and then if you can also say that uh if 361 00:13:53,269 --> 00:13:50,720 it's just a fact of life 362 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:53,279 then you can justify it to yourself for 363 00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:54,959 not sharing it 364 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:56,959 you know if if this is the truth right 365 00:14:01,030 --> 00:13:58,800 if the world really is round 366 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:01,040 why do i go why do i need to go and tell 367 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:02,880 china necessarily that the world is 368 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:05,040 around and now they can just sail their 369 00:14:10,069 --> 00:14:08,240 ship over to my to my country you know 370 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:10,079 why not tell them why give that 371 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:11,839 information why not let them believe 372 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:14,800 that oh the you know it ends in 373 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:16,480 waterfalls and dragons 374 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:18,480 right right maybe we don't want them 375 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:21,120 coming over here so why would 376 00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,639 so you're not 377 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:24,959 you're not necessarily lying right i 378 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:27,199 mean although you are but i think what 379 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:28,880 he's asking is what is this what made 380 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:31,199 you say i need to do this because there 381 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:33,680 was obviously something you said i need 382 00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:36,800 to do this research so what was that how 383 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:38,399 is is it just that 384 00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:40,000 that the lack of it's basically a 385 00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:42,560 frustration yeah go ahead nathan i think 386 00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:43,839 that's what you're about to say it's the 387 00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:45,519 lack of access to 388 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:47,279 quality information so we're going 389 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:48,639 around the 390 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:50,800 the official source of it because they 391 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:51,839 seem to be 392 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:54,000 unwilling to share uh or as you said 393 00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:56,000 incapable so we're gonna try to get some 394 00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:58,320 of that information ourselves by forming 395 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:00,880 an organization devoted to conducting 396 00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:03,279 certain experiments to obtain it so then 397 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:04,800 it's a matter of well how is the 398 00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:06,480 organization structured so you could do 399 00:15:10,389 --> 00:15:08,800 it a traditional way you could you know 400 00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:10,399 put a bunch of people together like you 401 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:12,160 said earlier you didn't want bosses or 402 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:13,360 employees but you could have done it 403 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,360 that way i had more of a traditional 404 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:17,279 organizational structure instead you 405 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:19,199 decided to go through 406 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:21,600 the crypto route which is by its very 407 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:23,680 nature and i don't ever think everyone 408 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:25,120 necessarily understands this but by its 409 00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:28,079 very nature it is decentralized in the 410 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:30,320 way that it is structured 411 00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:32,160 yeah that's it i mean you you hit the 412 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:34,560 nail on the head because 413 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:36,160 there's there's no 414 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,000 person or 415 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:40,480 governmental entity or anyone that 416 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:43,120 verifies any transactions 417 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:45,600 on like the ethereum blockchain 418 00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:48,079 you know so so nathan if if you go to 419 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:49,759 mint one of our like you want to you 420 00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:50,800 want to 421 00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:51,759 support 422 00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:53,600 whatever you know what we're doing what 423 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:55,759 uap society is doing you want to put in 424 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:57,600 funds all right you can support by just 425 00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:59,279 coming to the discord okay you don't 426 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,800 have to invest right let's say you want 427 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:02,079 to invest 428 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:04,880 then you can come to our minting website 429 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:06,320 right and mint 430 00:16:11,509 --> 00:16:09,279 some nfts so you can give that money to 431 00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:11,519 our organization essentially 432 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:13,440 right and that can happen from anywhere 433 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:15,920 in the world it doesn't matter if it's 434 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:18,000 you know out in the middle of africa 435 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:20,079 okay someone can go to our website that 436 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:21,360 same place 437 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:24,560 and trade that nft for ethereum 438 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:26,240 and no one approves it 439 00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:28,880 no government there's no bank 440 00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:31,279 there's no there's no organization 441 00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:32,639 between you 442 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:35,199 minting that nft and us 443 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,959 so but where you're paying for those 444 00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:38,959 transaction costs 445 00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:40,720 is you're paying the computers to to 446 00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:42,639 verify it that's what you're paying for 447 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:44,959 so we're not wasting energy right we're 448 00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:47,759 not blockchains aren't wasting energy uh 449 00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:49,759 or you know they're gonna pollute the 450 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:51,199 world or something if they're using 451 00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:53,120 renewable energy then they're just using 452 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:54,639 energy right 453 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,519 and the value that they do is we don't 454 00:17:01,590 --> 00:16:59,360 need all those [\h__\h] organizations 455 00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:01,600 anymore right we needed them in the past 456 00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:03,440 because you didn't have trust right i 457 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:05,439 needed a bank to say that yeah i'm going 458 00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:07,439 to give this check and send it over you 459 00:17:15,199 --> 00:17:20,329 he was on the twitter face i was like 460 00:17:20,339 --> 00:17:25,350 [Music] 461 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:27,029 we don't need anyone else we don't need 462 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:29,520 anyone else like you can you can give to 463 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:33,039 us we don't even need a website right if 464 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:34,400 that makes sense so it's totally 465 00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:39,590 right so 466 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:41,039 and that's kind of 467 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:42,559 i think maybe 468 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:43,760 psychological let's talk about the 469 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:45,200 psychology of it all right so because i 470 00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:46,320 think you're hitting on that a little 471 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:49,280 bit too so we live in a time where our 472 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:51,440 our traditional institutions that have 473 00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:53,440 been centralized for so long and have 474 00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:54,480 had 475 00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:56,400 have kind of placed the seal of 476 00:18:02,070 --> 00:17:59,280 authority on things like finance things 477 00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:02,080 like news things like governance you 478 00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:03,840 know all of those sort of traditional 479 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,039 institutions 480 00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:07,600 we have seen over the last really couple 481 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:10,320 decades but most notably last few years 482 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:12,080 an erosion in the trust of those 483 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:14,559 institutions being able to kind of 484 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,000 carry out the functions that they've 485 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:18,400 traditionally carried out and so 486 00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:21,520 crypto has this has it's a technology 487 00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:24,559 right that allows for 488 00:18:29,350 --> 00:18:26,320 doing those same kinds of traditional 489 00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:29,360 activities but doing them in a in a less 490 00:18:34,150 --> 00:18:31,760 centralized you know sort of just place 491 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,160 our truck your trust in this insert 492 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:36,640 organization x and instead place it in a 493 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:38,960 and like the decentralization it is in 494 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:41,200 fact its strength right that it's 495 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:43,280 distributed across lots of different 496 00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:46,320 people no one person has the controlling 497 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,559 authority over whatever 498 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:50,400 the mission is is that is that a good 499 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:52,480 way to sum that up 500 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:55,520 yeah i think that's 100 correct um and 501 00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:57,840 the big thing is i think people a lot of 502 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,400 people assume that it's complicated 503 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:03,120 and that's actually not the case um 504 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:05,280 it's it's actually quite simple and it 505 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,280 has to be you know the coding contracts 506 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,520 are very simple actually because you're 507 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:11,520 processing it on thousands and tens of 508 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,559 thousands i don't know how many 509 00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:15,360 thousands of computers the same 510 00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:16,960 you're processing the same transaction 511 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:18,320 at the same time 512 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:19,760 right and this means that it doesn't 513 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:22,799 matter if the nsa wants to doesn't like 514 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,679 what i'm doing they can't stop this 515 00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:27,520 right until they come up with a 516 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:29,520 technological breakthrough so it's like 517 00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:31,360 the first time in history where the 518 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:34,240 average person has better cryptographic 519 00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:37,200 um defense than a government or at least 520 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:38,559 it's equivalent okay maybe they have 521 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:41,039 some super secret quantum computer 522 00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:43,600 tunneling etc but the problem is it's 523 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:44,799 open source 524 00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,320 right so look at all these hacks that 525 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:48,320 have happened right how did the nsa 526 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:49,840 listen to everything 527 00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:51,200 you know how do they record everything a 528 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:52,880 lot of it is they go through xero what 529 00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:55,600 is it it's called the zero day hacks 530 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:57,919 right into apple ios devices et cetera 531 00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:58,720 so 532 00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:00,799 you don't you don't see all that stuff 533 00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:02,400 right we don't we don't have access to 534 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:03,679 the coding 535 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:06,320 of the apple ios all right i mean you 536 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,440 get 537 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:08,960 you can develop 538 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:10,400 programs for it but you're not getting 539 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:12,320 access to the source code of the iphone 540 00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:13,520 right 541 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,000 but here it's all laid bare 542 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:18,080 right it's all laid bare and it has to 543 00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:19,600 be simple because it's processed on so 544 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:22,400 many different computers so 545 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:24,320 it's a simple process it's a simple 546 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:25,280 process 547 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,080 but 548 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:28,480 it because it's decentralized right 549 00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:30,880 because it's open source 550 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:32,480 everything's visible so people can't 551 00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:34,480 just come in and mess with it they can't 552 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,159 they can't mess with it you know 553 00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:38,400 well if they can we can see it 554 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:41,120 right um so that provides a huge benefit 555 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:43,440 right so what does that equate directly 556 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,240 to his transparency 557 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,480 transparency and lack of corruption 558 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:50,080 because now it's visible right the 559 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,600 problem with corruption is you don't see 560 00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:52,799 what's going i mean maybe you go to 561 00:20:55,820 --> 00:20:54,960 certain countries like russia where it's 562 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:55,830 everywhere is corrupt 563 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:58,000 [Laughter] 564 00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:59,280 now i've heard that as well like all 565 00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:01,200 businesses in russia has done through 566 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:03,120 basic i mean i live overseas you know i 567 00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:04,640 know how it works 568 00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,919 um 569 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:07,520 but everything is that all of it is 570 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:08,720 corrupt basically that's how you do 571 00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:11,760 business there you know right how it is 572 00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,200 but the problem is 573 00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:15,120 transparency now it'll push the 574 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,640 corruption outward 575 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:18,000 so all you have to come you don't have 576 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:19,600 to confirm and you don't have to verify 577 00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:21,039 the process 578 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,640 um but you do have to verify where 579 00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,480 you're sending the the funds you know 580 00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,400 you have to verify it's the correct nft 581 00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:28,559 and and all that stuff but you hit it 582 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,520 right it's it's an avenue crypto is an 583 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:33,039 avenue people keep thinking it's the 584 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:34,880 final thing they're like i'm 585 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:37,679 i'm buying just a cartoon and i'm like 586 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:39,360 you're not buying a cartoon man it's 587 00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:41,440 like uh it's like if someone was buying 588 00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:43,360 a website 589 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:45,039 you know hey i'm buying i'm buying this 590 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,360 website uapsociety.com 591 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,520 and someone comes along is like well i 592 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:51,600 can just write uapsociety.com on the 593 00:21:54,430 --> 00:21:52,400 wall 594 00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,440 you know or i can just take a picture of 595 00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:56,480 uapsociety.com and put it on my wall and 596 00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,960 i'm like dude you don't 597 00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,320 i don't even know how to talk to you 598 00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,480 like because it's this is a difficult 599 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,559 topic this is not that's why we're doing 600 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,080 this i mean that's 601 00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:07,919 one of the reasons we you know we decide 602 00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,559 is is this is not easy and and i would 603 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:12,559 kind of like to pose the same question 604 00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,039 to your colleague alexa if you want to 605 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:18,320 pop him up there nathan yeah welcome 606 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,840 alexi 607 00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,320 how's it going hey brothers i would be 608 00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,559 remiss if i didn't say how great your 609 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,559 hair is 610 00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:28,400 and you know i've been dying to say that 611 00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:31,120 since i saw that epic episode with 612 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,240 yourself 613 00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,960 artisan tony chris and lou elizondo that 614 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,640 was just 615 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:38,960 phenomenal if i could just pardon the 616 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,440 pun uh but you know what kevin uh let's 617 00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:43,280 let's get your question for alexei 618 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:44,799 please 619 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,120 all right well actually i had a general 620 00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,880 statement first i wanted to tell you 621 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,360 your team i i'm really i really think 622 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,200 what you guys doing is really awesome so 623 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,200 i'm reminded of a quote 624 00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,760 by mckenna all right it says our need to 625 00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,360 feel part of the world seems to demand 626 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:00,880 that we express ourselves through 627 00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,280 creative activity so i want to give you 628 00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,280 guys props for rising above those 629 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,520 previously laid down models of thinking 630 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,440 and taking responsibility towards 631 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:11,120 understanding the phenomenon i think 632 00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,240 it's great you're taking your own 633 00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,960 responsibility rather than you know 634 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:16,559 walking on somewhat something somebody 635 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:19,200 else did it's great so um i'm also 636 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:20,880 looking forward to learning um how to 637 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:21,840 get 638 00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:24,400 out of our digital signatures on ufos 639 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,640 okay so once i get a i capture my own 640 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:29,200 ufo can i trade it 641 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,799 on the market 642 00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:32,799 with other people who own you know and 643 00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,159 capture their ufos as well 644 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,480 that's a good question you mean captured 645 00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:40,000 or what do you mean by capture do you 646 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,840 take a picture like 647 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:43,679 yeah yeah you know if i meant can i 648 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,149 mint your own uap i don't understand 649 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,240 yeah okay now actually and more 650 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:53,840 seriously i have a serious question um 651 00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,320 as an artist say we can't not not 652 00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:59,120 everybody can um help the uap society 653 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,640 monetarily is there a way that we can 654 00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:02,480 contribute maybe artistic because i'm 655 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:04,240 always throwing content out there is 656 00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:07,120 there something um yeah we can do 657 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:09,679 i think the best would be um if you 658 00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:12,480 have you seen our collection 659 00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:13,840 yeah yeah i have 660 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:16,240 if you just you have the artistic eye 661 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,799 man what is the the ones that you like 662 00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:20,400 you know just share a few that you like 663 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:23,760 on your twitter or just highlighting it 664 00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:26,080 okay why can't we give the artist cool 665 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:27,679 to you you know 666 00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:28,720 okay 667 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,679 cool 668 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:31,840 yeah i can definitely do that yeah 669 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:34,159 because i i think there's a huge 670 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,320 untapped 671 00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:37,840 there's just a lot of value in the 672 00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:40,400 actual art part of it 673 00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:42,559 i really dig it if you look once you 674 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:44,640 start really what you got to do kevin is 675 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,360 just go into open c 676 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:49,600 and start looking at the traits you look 677 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:51,440 under the properties 678 00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,480 okay 679 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:54,559 and because the collection the whole 680 00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:57,039 thing is is an art piece it's not just 681 00:25:03,750 --> 00:24:58,720 each one 682 00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:03,760 know each nft is actually in 683 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,840 it's in the whole thing and the metadata 684 00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:06,880 actually is 685 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:09,440 very thought out over months of time you 686 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,720 know the actual titles uh the traits 687 00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,480 so click through the trades it's super 688 00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,080 fun because the blockchain you can get 689 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,679 all the information you need everywhere 690 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,760 right you mentioned kind of nathan is 691 00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:21,600 people aren't used to it 692 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:24,480 the difference in the web 3 is that 693 00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,440 there's actually trust in what you're 694 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,159 looking at meaning 695 00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:31,840 right now everything we're aware of in 696 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,679 the digi we're used to in our world our 697 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,840 digital world it's all copy you can copy 698 00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,279 paste anything 699 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,120 right so really there's 700 00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:41,360 like over abundance of 701 00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:42,480 of content 702 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:44,799 it could be fake it could be 703 00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:47,679 real we have no real idea 704 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,799 um but what what the technology brings 705 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,039 with you it brings an avenue a trusted 706 00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:55,520 avenue a verifiable avenue it's like a 707 00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:58,320 super strong little green check mark 708 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,919 on all your things being being real 709 00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:03,840 um so yeah 710 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,159 and one of the things that i'm sorry kev 711 00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:10,960 no i'm good okay i wanted to find out if 712 00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:13,520 if you can pop alexa but what uh what 713 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:16,799 his on-ramp was to use a nathanism uh 714 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,760 into joining forces with chris in this 715 00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:21,520 venture what is it that spoke to you 716 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:23,919 that said i want to shift the paradigm 717 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,230 oh alexis on mute so can we unmute him 718 00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:31,840 we can't 719 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:33,919 there he is i've been uh personally 720 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:35,760 looking into my entire life since i was 721 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:38,240 about five years old um and you could 722 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:39,679 say i've been doing the movement 723 00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:41,440 personally by myself since i graduated 724 00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:43,039 college 2012 725 00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,840 as in educating the public on 726 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:47,440 um the greater reality that we live 727 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:49,279 within trying to talk about time 728 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:50,799 different flows of space and things like 729 00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,760 that 730 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,679 and it really wasn't going anywhere you 731 00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,400 could say until luella zondo started 732 00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:59,039 coming out on the limelight and you know 733 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,559 saying hey these are real things and all 734 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:02,480 of a sudden now harvard's looking into 735 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:03,279 it 736 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,440 and uh chris is out there making videos 737 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,600 you know once a skeptic but now 738 00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,279 if you know former f16 probably really 739 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,880 looking out there trying to try to find 740 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:12,240 the truth 741 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:13,360 and 742 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:18,080 there's people that have invented 743 00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,679 technologies and they've even presented 744 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,880 it to the governments and then the 745 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,080 governments just don't say anything 746 00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:24,320 about it for example jon searle and his 747 00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,320 technology 748 00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:28,159 so as far as getting the truth out there 749 00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,200 and 750 00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:31,520 getting humanity back into space it 751 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,840 comes down 752 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,360 to we need to do the research ourselves 753 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,880 and we need to find the truth ourselves 754 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,720 um the governments are never going to 755 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:40,320 give up the information that they have 756 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:41,840 on uap 757 00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:43,840 it's just the way it is 758 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,720 it's the nature of the beast 759 00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,480 it's so beautiful all the people that 760 00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,640 have come together over this topic like 761 00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,799 yourself and chris you know we talk 762 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,240 about all the time all our friends from 763 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,080 the uk we'd never first of all the 764 00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,000 people on this panel never would have 765 00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:00,399 met and we would never have met our our 766 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:01,679 friends from the uk and you wouldn't 767 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,480 have met chris it's amazing how we've 768 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:06,799 connected with people from all walks of 769 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,960 life and different countries over this 770 00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,320 it's really 771 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,640 incredible it's like woodstock it's 772 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:15,200 really something else uh steph i believe 773 00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,640 had a question i don't know if it was 774 00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:19,039 for you or for chris but steph please go 775 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,399 ahead ma'am 776 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,000 i'll pose the question to chris and 777 00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:25,360 alexi actually so i like kevin i'm also 778 00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,399 um a creative so i'm super excited about 779 00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:30,399 the art and for a lot of people that 780 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,600 don't know this is a i generated art so 781 00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:35,840 it's a family of algorithms used to 782 00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:38,399 apply the style of one or more images to 783 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:42,080 input an image and that just gets me so 784 00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:46,000 excited um i know that there's a cap on 785 00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,799 your limit as far as purchasing 10 do 786 00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,880 you foresee in the future that you might 787 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:52,240 extend that 788 00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:53,200 or 789 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,279 white list mint 790 00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,600 okay but we raised it to 42 per 791 00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:05,679 transaction actually for the 792 00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:08,399 the public mint tomorrow fantastic that 793 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,840 is exciting news so that's tomorrow then 794 00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,200 beautiful and we've actually yeah we've 795 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:14,799 actually removed the limits because what 796 00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,640 we had is people were having issues with 797 00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,080 the white list 798 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,320 um because the way the contract 799 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,240 technically was working anyway so we 800 00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:24,080 just removed it to make it easy so 801 00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,320 basically anyone can mint at this point 802 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:28,399 we're just not advertising it yet 803 00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,120 cool and that 42 the the answer to the 804 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:33,120 universe so 805 00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,799 i dig it 806 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:36,320 there's no that's right 807 00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:39,120 there's another reason too is the uh 808 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:41,120 it goes over ten thousand dollars if you 809 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:42,480 go try to do 810 00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:44,080 more than that and that 811 00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,000 has some other issues but yes good to 812 00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,919 know yeah tax purposes and all that fun 813 00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,919 stuff too because you can probably write 814 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:51,919 you can write it off and all that so 815 00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,720 all right cool thank you you know if you 816 00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:56,720 guys have seen the story of perseus and 817 00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,919 andromeda uh we're at the point now with 818 00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:00,799 deb 819 00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:03,919 where i say we'll release the kraken 820 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,039 which is also known as deb 821 00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,440 why thank you 822 00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,279 i wanted to um 823 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,520 talk about this in terms of 824 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:15,760 why you're doing it and i think it's 825 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,080 really important for people to recognize 826 00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:21,440 it's not just you know a money issue or 827 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,520 whatever there's an end game so i wanted 828 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,279 to kind of pull it back 829 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,000 to what you did recently where you had 830 00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,559 two balloons go up with equipment and i 831 00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:32,880 wanted to ask if there was any data that 832 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,549 oh alexa you're still muted 833 00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:42,559 that's an interesting uh question we had 834 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,200 two devices on um the balloon in vernal 835 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,200 utah one was a cell phone right that was 836 00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,120 doing a live stream and the other was is 837 00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:52,159 a device called the mupus device mupas 838 00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:54,559 which was designed by jim sagala one of 839 00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,840 the original scientists from the 840 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:57,519 skinwalker ranch show 841 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,480 and basically the second we launched 842 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,080 that equipment failed 843 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,240 um but what was really interesting was 844 00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:05,919 that jim had one of his devices 845 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,240 recording inside at the moment of launch 846 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,279 and it recorded spikes and uh the em 847 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:13,120 basically in microwave and also in the 848 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,799 gamma wave frequencies 849 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,240 and that seems to be something that's 850 00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:19,760 correlated with uh the uap events um are 851 00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,120 those spikes those changes in fields so 852 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,799 i mean we didn't get data from the 853 00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:26,720 actual flight itself but we got that 854 00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:28,960 data right there which was showing you 855 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:31,039 could say 856 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,600 an anomaly right i don't i don't know 857 00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,440 any other way to describe it 858 00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,519 and i mean yeah just to follow up is 859 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,600 that information gonna be somewhere 860 00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,519 really clear and obvious when you start 861 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:43,039 collecting that data 862 00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:45,760 yeah um i believe right now that the 863 00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,519 test results from that first flight are 864 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,120 already on the discord i believe chris 865 00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:51,600 has them posted somewhere up there 866 00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,360 and we plan to make everything as open 867 00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,279 and as clean and obvious as possible 868 00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:57,200 that way any independent researcher or 869 00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:58,720 scientist can take a look at the data 870 00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,080 themselves and come to their own 871 00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:02,240 conclusions because it's just like 872 00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:03,360 having the world government tell you 873 00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,200 what to think people shouldn't really be 874 00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,960 relying on us what to think they should 875 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,480 be relying on the data that we present 876 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:10,320 and the data that's collected 877 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:11,840 um and they can make their own 878 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:14,159 conclusions on reality 879 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,440 yeah 880 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,440 i love it we're going to get into the 881 00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:19,919 technical aspects of what you guys hope 882 00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,880 to do 883 00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:23,039 and maybe you know some milestones that 884 00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:24,640 you're going to hit along the way so let 885 00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:28,159 me pass it back to uh nft nathan i i 886 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,039 don't know what we're gonna do with the 887 00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,200 nickname that's gonna be up 888 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:33,679 it's okay it's all good um 889 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:36,159 so i you know i i love the idea because 890 00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:37,600 i think 891 00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,640 it's really brave and and radical to 892 00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,399 kind of jump into this technology and 893 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,919 try something new 894 00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:45,360 um i think 895 00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,640 for those that are they're thinking 896 00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,799 about joining you know buying an nft or 897 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:49,919 whatever obviously the normal 898 00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,080 disclaimers always apply if you're 899 00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:54,480 investing in anything you should kind of 900 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:55,840 make sure that you're not putting in 901 00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,080 more than you're willing to lose that's 902 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,240 finance 101 903 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,640 but whether it would be doing it through 904 00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:04,880 this kind of structure or through a 905 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,279 traditional organization 906 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,200 we in the community can agree like it's 907 00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:11,440 it's a worthwhile endeavor to do more 908 00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:13,600 citizen science right 909 00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:14,720 so 910 00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,559 structure down the art is amazing i love 911 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,320 the ai creations 912 00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:22,080 i love the community activity and 913 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,279 participation the interest level 914 00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,679 how do you go about deciding 915 00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:29,200 you know what projects that you're going 916 00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:30,399 to tackle 917 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,840 uh and i'm asking this rhetorically 918 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,799 because i kind of know the answer to 919 00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:34,159 this but not many people may know the 920 00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,600 answer so how do you go about picking 921 00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,600 the projects how do you go about voting 922 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,760 for them how do you go about kind of 923 00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:41,120 making sure that 924 00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:42,799 you're being good stewards of the money 925 00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:45,200 that you've received by by the people 926 00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,279 who've invested in these nfts how does 927 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,919 all that really work 928 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:51,279 yeah 929 00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,200 do you think 930 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,960 well basically what we have set up right 931 00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:59,279 now is the discord uh wherever it's just 932 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,799 a community anyone can join you don't 933 00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:03,039 even need to own an nfc so anyone can 934 00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:05,279 join the discord and on the discord we 935 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:07,519 have a section that is proposals 936 00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:08,879 so basically 937 00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,280 people can make proposals um and then we 938 00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:13,679 have either vote up or vote down is the 939 00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,040 easiest way to put it and we have a 940 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:16,800 limited budget based on the capital we 941 00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:17,760 raise 942 00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,280 and based off the limit you know the 943 00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:20,960 budget that we we raise and the 944 00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:22,639 proposals and the voting up and voting 945 00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:25,359 down is the direction we will go 946 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:27,280 um i think that's pretty much 947 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,480 straightforward 948 00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,280 in the simplest way you know 949 00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,200 uh yeah that was great 950 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,599 i wish i could as well and i love it 951 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:37,520 i think it kind of demystifies a lot of 952 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:38,399 the 953 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:39,200 see 954 00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,200 for most people who have not done 955 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:44,159 anything in the crypto space 956 00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,839 what they're hearing is the popular 957 00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:48,000 things related to crypto right now 958 00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:49,119 which are 959 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,560 the environmental piece that's in the 960 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:52,399 news you guys know about that you've 961 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:53,679 already addressed that chris to certain 962 00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,560 degree 963 00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,680 the uh you know kind of the 964 00:35:02,950 --> 00:34:59,280 pump and dump is a big you know 965 00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:02,960 component of nfts right now uh 966 00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,359 you know that there's this big sort of 967 00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:07,119 potential for risk for people who are 968 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,960 jumping into this space that they could 969 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,800 you know put a lot of money into it and 970 00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:13,040 lose the money and somebody else 971 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:14,720 you know is running away with a big bag 972 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:17,040 of cash you know and you can't can't 973 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:18,800 trace them because it's crypto and it's 974 00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:19,760 totally 975 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,160 concealable so i think for me 976 00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:23,920 the way that you've distilled it down to 977 00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,480 these basic concepts it makes it a lot 978 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,119 more approachable and honestly i think 979 00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,880 it because of the way crypto works it's 980 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,960 actually very secure it's it's more 981 00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:35,440 transparent than most organizations are 982 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:38,240 um it's not that one person can just you 983 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,520 know 984 00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:41,040 hit the print button and grab all the 985 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:43,119 money and go right it doesn't work that 986 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,720 way 987 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,040 yeah i think you mentioned um 988 00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:50,320 some key points there about risk 989 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,920 you know it's really what do people 990 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,680 think they're risking 991 00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:55,440 but like you mentioned this before it's 992 00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:58,000 lack of a lack of understanding you know 993 00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:59,119 the the 994 00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,800 the way you're going to get scammed is 995 00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:02,160 is 996 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,000 to trick you into 997 00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,839 giving you giving your information to 998 00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:09,359 them you know it's more like all fishing 999 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,920 scams if you can think of it 1000 00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:13,920 that that's how that's how it generally 1001 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:16,560 can work because people don't understand 1002 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,760 yet 1003 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:20,160 what's the important stuff to protect 1004 00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:21,760 right you know if i ask for your bank 1005 00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,839 account number and your social your 1006 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:25,119 social security number i'm pretty sure 1007 00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,560 you're not going to give it to me 1008 00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,400 right but if if you go into a bank and 1009 00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:30,480 they ask for your social security number 1010 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,520 now you're going to tell them that 1011 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:33,839 probably right to confirm who you are 1012 00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:34,720 so 1013 00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:37,599 you know i think generally people know 1014 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,520 through living day to day over many many 1015 00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,440 years 1016 00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:43,599 you understand what information you know 1017 00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,320 to keep and when you can give it away 1018 00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,160 but in the crypto world it's so new 1019 00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,920 right so all of this stuff is totally 1020 00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:51,119 new 1021 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:52,800 and so people there's a lack of 1022 00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:54,160 understanding right the lack of 1023 00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:56,560 knowledge essentially on what 1024 00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,920 what they're risking they don't know 1025 00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,599 where the risk is so they just assume 1026 00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:01,119 there's just risk everywhere you know 1027 00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,920 they they hear it in the in the news 1028 00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:06,000 so they just assume that uh right away 1029 00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:08,160 as soon as they get involved you know 1030 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:09,520 they're gonna 1031 00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,480 basically get scammed or whatnot and 1032 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:14,480 you know i to to be honest i have this 1033 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:17,280 game you know so it happens the other 1034 00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,960 but also to be honest i put in three 1035 00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,800 thousand dollars in 2019 and it went to 1036 00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:22,560 half a million 1037 00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,359 so 1038 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,359 it depends on what you're scamming right 1039 00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:27,520 then it went back down to like 100 you 1040 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,920 know so it's it's huge these giant 1041 00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,359 swings 1042 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,520 um so but you don't need to start big 1043 00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,520 but you do need to start you need to get 1044 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,839 in there and you have to get wet 1045 00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:39,839 or you're never going to learn like 1046 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:42,160 you can read about using an iphone and 1047 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,599 why it would change your life right but 1048 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:46,240 until you really started using it 1049 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:47,040 you 1050 00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,880 everyone i think thought it was kind of 1051 00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,440 just bs you know why don't i just call 1052 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,599 or i didn't i just couldn't afford it 1053 00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,680 that was the thing yeah i was over at 1054 00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,920 mildenhall at the time uh i'd like to 1055 00:38:02,069 --> 00:37:59,599 get into a little bit of tech talk if 1056 00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:02,079 you don't mind and let chris and alexa 1057 00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:02,800 take 1058 00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:07,040 so for a first milestone 1059 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,160 um let's talk about what in terms of 1060 00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:12,480 what you're going to deploy in terms of 1061 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,599 research 1062 00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:15,359 and then you can even give me a second 1063 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,800 milestone but let's start off with 1064 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:18,640 milestone one what would that look like 1065 00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:19,440 that 1066 00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,520 deploy you're going to deploy rather 1067 00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:25,599 so i'd say the first milestone will be 1068 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,200 in september 1069 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:29,440 it was originally going to be july but i 1070 00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:30,160 think 1071 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:32,160 based on european 1072 00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:34,000 schedules and everything um we go in 1073 00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:36,800 september so still third quarter 1074 00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,200 will be our next launch and so that'll 1075 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,680 basically be alexei will be running 1076 00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:43,920 point in vernal 1077 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,839 with 1078 00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:47,280 reigns backing him up this time he's 1079 00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:48,560 really good at reading checklists and 1080 00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:49,839 doing all that sort of stuff so i think 1081 00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,280 it'd be a great team 1082 00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:52,800 working with jim 1083 00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,119 and integrating their device jim's 1084 00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,079 device essentially if we can into some 1085 00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,240 sort of balloon device to go over either 1086 00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:02,240 at least brian fog ranch 1087 00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:03,839 and if they want to participate as well 1088 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,079 then skim marker ranch well let's talk 1089 00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,920 about the device because i'm unfamiliar 1090 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,920 i'm a tech guy there's probably some 1091 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:12,240 other nerds out there like me so let's 1092 00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:13,920 talk about what that device is and what 1093 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,560 it what it is able to what kind of 1094 00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:18,640 information table to gather 1095 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,480 yeah he had it he brought it to the 1096 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:23,200 megacon disclosure symposium 1097 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,800 and basically it looks like it's 1098 00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,960 basically a raspberry pi from what i 1099 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,040 understand raspberry pi with some other 1100 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,320 uh detectors mounted onto it 1101 00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,560 why not blueberry because like i'm not a 1102 00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,079 raspberry fan 1103 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:38,079 yeah you speak to watch i don't know 1104 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:39,200 actually i haven't really messed with 1105 00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,480 the device too much you know i've just 1106 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,240 seen it seen the data coming out of it 1107 00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:44,320 alexa i know you're getting we've just 1108 00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:45,839 talked about getting two of these right 1109 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:47,760 with funds received so we let's talk 1110 00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,599 about funds you know so we need funding 1111 00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,920 to do this stuff so wait i want to talk 1112 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,599 tech and you want to talk yes i want to 1113 00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,680 talk about the device we're gonna buy 1114 00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:58,160 these two devices right at least uh from 1115 00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:00,079 jim because he's gonna put them together 1116 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,320 send them to alexei and now he can start 1117 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,920 playing with them and seeing how he can 1118 00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:05,359 integrate it 1119 00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:08,240 into a aerial device 1120 00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:09,520 because that's what we kind of learned 1121 00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,400 is that 1122 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,640 yeah the the power supply essentially 1123 00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:14,560 cut and if you watch the video okay it 1124 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:15,520 could be 1125 00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:18,240 the spike you know and but it also when 1126 00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:19,839 when we launched it there was a jerk 1127 00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:22,079 right the wind was blowing pretty hard 1128 00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:23,520 if you watch the actual live video it's 1129 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,880 blowing really hard 1130 00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:27,680 and there was a jerk at of the payload 1131 00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:29,440 so i don't know maybe if that there was 1132 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,520 enough g's in there to like knock the 1133 00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,880 some something loose and that's what 1134 00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,400 disconnected it 1135 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,720 um so we want to do it again and and 1136 00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:38,640 that alone will be a test for is it 1137 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,920 going to work 1138 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:42,000 uh and then the device so alexa what do 1139 00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:43,599 you know about jim's device tell me 1140 00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,240 about it 500 megahertz to six gigahertz 1141 00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,480 gamma microwave but that's it 1142 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,400 basically um he's you know originally 1143 00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,520 designed it for skinwalker ranch and um 1144 00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,000 the tv show and so it measures fluctuate 1145 00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,680 it measures background radiation and 1146 00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:59,599 microwave all the way to gamma 1147 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:00,560 um 1148 00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,720 and it it just basically measures like 1149 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,119 the standing background normal 1150 00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:06,960 fluctuations right 1151 00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:09,119 and so what's not typical is seeing 1152 00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:11,359 spikes in microwave or seeing spikes in 1153 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,599 any of them really and so what he's been 1154 00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,000 measuring are the spikes that he finds 1155 00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,960 associated with the uap events 1156 00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,240 and what he's also done with that 1157 00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:22,319 technology is given it to a handful of 1158 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,560 experiencers so these people will take 1159 00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,000 them home with them 1160 00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:28,000 and then they'll have a reading of their 1161 00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,599 background noises and they notice a 1162 00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,119 spike will go up 1163 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,200 now the person becomes agitated and they 1164 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,200 act agitated for the rest of the day 1165 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,760 maybe maybe six hours eight hours then 1166 00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,359 another spike happens 1167 00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,119 and the agitation goes away person is 1168 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:43,359 like back to normal wow 1169 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,280 yeah i know it's pretty profound data 1170 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,440 when you think about how 1171 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,040 it could be working and what could be 1172 00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:51,760 happening um and so i think that also to 1173 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,200 go along with those balloons will 1174 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,440 eventually be getting those devices out 1175 00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,200 to experiencers 1176 00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:59,200 um because it just seems like a really 1177 00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,880 handy piece of equipment kind of a 1178 00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,200 general use equipment that can be put on 1179 00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,680 balloons can be put underground can be 1180 00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:07,280 put in someone's pocket 1181 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,800 um and the main thing is that it just 1182 00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,480 has the battery supply because it has an 1183 00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,319 onboard computer that's always recording 1184 00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,760 the data 1185 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:15,119 and then you plug it into a computer 1186 00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,880 later and you you know extract all the 1187 00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,280 data and that's where jim has you know 1188 00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:20,880 set up programs to where he's comparing 1189 00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,640 them all he can track them all 1190 00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,119 and um i feel like that to go along with 1191 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:27,200 sky 360 is going to be something in the 1192 00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,560 future that will be distributed as well 1193 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,920 but we have to see where how the 1194 00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:33,760 proposals go and how people react to the 1195 00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,920 information so what altitude are you 1196 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,760 thinking the are you planning on these 1197 00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:39,359 balloons going to 1198 00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:41,040 and the second part of the question 1199 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,000 would be 1200 00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,000 in that i i'm sure jim has probably 1201 00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:46,000 figured out in this spectrum if 1202 00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,760 something appears it's anomalous that 1203 00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:49,599 there's nothing natural 1204 00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,280 uh that we know of in 1205 00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:53,040 in terms of atmospherics it's in that 1206 00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,480 spectrum is that 1207 00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,079 that that's exactly the point is that 1208 00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:58,640 there shouldn't be any anomalous spikes 1209 00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:01,920 happening right like and but by by 1210 00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:04,160 correlating those spikes with events 1211 00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,680 whether the event is some type of light 1212 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:07,119 in the sky or some type of conscious 1213 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:08,240 experience 1214 00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,160 that's an important thing to do okay 1215 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,920 right cool then you can get those 1216 00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,760 correlations you can you can actually 1217 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,200 start to do some 1218 00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:16,880 some analysis there with those type with 1219 00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:18,960 that type of information what altitude 1220 00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:21,920 are we thinking that there are 1221 00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,119 max altitudes roughly 120 000 feet 1222 00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,119 and how do you retrieve it at that point 1223 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,960 do you how do you retrieve it back to 1224 00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:30,079 earth 1225 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:31,839 basically you put a couple different gps 1226 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,200 trackers on it we had three different 1227 00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:35,040 gps tracking systems on that first 1228 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,920 balloon 1229 00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,160 and two of them failed so 1230 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:41,200 it's important to have backups um i 1231 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,480 believe chris calls it what it's a 1232 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:44,079 double tapping or 1233 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,440 uh 1234 00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:47,680 that way you know if one system fails 1235 00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,839 you you still have your backup to get it 1236 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,920 you know yeah chris is back at the range 1237 00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:54,480 with his m9 all right let me pass it to 1238 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,839 kevin 1239 00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,680 i'll have one more no 1240 00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:59,599 yes sir yes sir jim had some other 1241 00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,480 things as well he he talked about a i i 1242 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,079 hadn't heard of this maybe you heard of 1243 00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,160 it nathan is a 1244 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,400 gravity detector 1245 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,640 so basically he said gravity always 1246 00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:12,400 points you know 1247 00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:13,440 like this 1248 00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,200 but he said every once in a while you 1249 00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,440 get a little tweak 1250 00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:19,920 or something like this 1251 00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,680 which i've never heard of an actual 1252 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,760 change in the 1253 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:25,280 the gravity field 1254 00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,400 that was really interesting to me 1255 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:28,079 another thing would be cool 1256 00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:30,000 i've i need to track it down we talked 1257 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,520 about in twitter space is cosmic clocks 1258 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,000 have you heard of those i think so yeah 1259 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,240 yeah i need to track it down and then uh 1260 00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,960 quantum rng so quantum random number 1261 00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:43,119 generators i thought a cosmic clock was 1262 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,480 a quantum 1263 00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,040 rng but i don't know 1264 00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,880 i think just cheap ways we can add it 1265 00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:50,400 into one package 1266 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,200 right 1267 00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:53,760 uh and then add it on to the sky 360. so 1268 00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,680 that that would kind of be the the home 1269 00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:57,920 run for me is that we're able to 1270 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,280 integrate this smoopass device from jim 1271 00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,960 because he's open source that's awesome 1272 00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,440 like jim doesn't care about him making a 1273 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,200 product and making a bunch of money so 1274 00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:08,880 he's happy we can use it 1275 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,599 so we can just put that design as like 1276 00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,240 the top end part of the sky 360. 1277 00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:16,079 and so people can just add that in as 1278 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:19,520 like the passive uh emf detector 1279 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,560 slash gravity detector slash 1280 00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,480 i don't know cosmic clock 1281 00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,480 uh but yeah to add in more stuff you 1282 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,720 know i don't want to complicate sky 360 1283 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,160 you know i want them focusing just on 1284 00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:32,560 the ai solution with this with the 1285 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,680 optical 1286 00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:35,520 yeah i i think i've i've heard of that 1287 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:37,839 device when they were in another venture 1288 00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:39,680 but i i also i want to say something i 1289 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:41,599 don't know if the rest of the the cast 1290 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,560 will amen on this but if you've not if 1291 00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:46,800 you're not familiar with david mason 1292 00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,839 dave mason who was on our previous show 1293 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,839 that we did and he was on that a tear in 1294 00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:52,960 the sky 1295 00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,119 and i think alexi also might be 1296 00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,440 intrigued with all the equipment that 1297 00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:00,319 he's designed he actually spoke to us 1298 00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,520 this is gonna sound a little bit 1299 00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:04,160 outlandish so forgive me about 1300 00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,760 sending up uh light waves so basically 1301 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:09,839 sound waves of whales that have been 1302 00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:12,960 converted into light waves that he can 1303 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,720 then commute that's just one of the 1304 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:16,800 things he's doing but if you've seen a 1305 00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,520 tear in the sky all that equipment this 1306 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,000 guy's designed and he may be he said he 1307 00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,480 told us he's a free agent right nathan 1308 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,160 yeah i think he's definitely open to 1309 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:28,400 talking to folks and sharing some ideas 1310 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,760 there but he's he's been doing this 1311 00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:32,000 stuff for i think since he was like 13 i 1312 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,280 mean for 1313 00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,359 many many years he'd be a smart guy with 1314 00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:37,200 some good ideas but i just love that i 1315 00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,400 just love the court concept right 1316 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,240 because what we're trying to propose 1317 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,240 here is that people can literally be 1318 00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,319 investors into their own little data 1319 00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,720 collection systems and we can position 1320 00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,240 these nodes 1321 00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:50,720 really in hotspot areas where we know 1322 00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:51,599 there's 1323 00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:54,319 seemingly a lot of activity but also 1324 00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:55,839 the kind of longer term goal would be to 1325 00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:58,640 distribute them just more broadly around 1326 00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:00,720 the world and then you're collating all 1327 00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,400 that information to look for these 1328 00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,400 little kind of data 1329 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:06,160 perturbations and 1330 00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:07,760 you know then you're making some and 1331 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,160 doing some analysis with that how do you 1332 00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:12,400 on the analysis component of it because 1333 00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:13,599 i think you're going to be drowning in a 1334 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,760 lot of information how do you go about 1335 00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:17,200 really 1336 00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:18,800 making sense of that 1337 00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,240 yeah i would say that's part of the 1338 00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,800 milestone so i mentioned um 1339 00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:24,720 vernal right so alexei is basically lead 1340 00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:27,280 that charge with the with reigns or 1341 00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:28,240 murphy 1342 00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,280 and then in sky 360 1343 00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:33,359 uh so basically that's the germany 1344 00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:35,839 effort and so that really focusing on 1345 00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,119 the optical development of sky 360. so 1346 00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:41,359 really just getting them the resources 1347 00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,079 they 1348 00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,559 need the time really the the personnel 1349 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:46,319 time they really need the engineers to 1350 00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,520 work on it 1351 00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:49,839 you know and so if we can get reasonable 1352 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,920 funding from this first drop then we can 1353 00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:53,359 for the next quarter we can probably 1354 00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,319 just 1355 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,520 work 1356 00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:59,280 you know that they're probably not up 1357 00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,319 you know i don't think we'll have to pay 1358 00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,520 them some ridiculous amount you know 1359 00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,599 just pay them their freelance 1360 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:05,119 wages 1361 00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,160 and really to get the camera 1362 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,480 solid so the actual fish eye so make 1363 00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,160 sure the hardware works you know make 1364 00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,319 sure we can get some decent software 1365 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,480 uh written you know and maybe get that 1366 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,400 ai overlay started 1367 00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:20,240 you know that process built through and 1368 00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,280 then for them to put up a good system so 1369 00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:24,640 they're going to design like a 1370 00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,599 weatherproof payload that we can send up 1371 00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,599 with decent cameras and then if we can 1372 00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,760 send up two of those now 1373 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:33,440 uh i think that'd be awesome if we just 1374 00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:35,839 release the balloons at the same time or 1375 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:37,599 around the same time i think one of them 1376 00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,240 will be in enough view of the other 1377 00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:42,480 uh if we can also get a sky 360 on the 1378 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:43,520 ground 1379 00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,680 now we'll have three kind of cameras i 1380 00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,760 think it'd be sweet because i think 1381 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,359 logan mentioned that we are we we 1382 00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:51,520 already captured uap in the first 1383 00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:54,480 uh one of the first uh videos um but the 1384 00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,359 data the video data is up on our uap 1385 00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,839 society youtube so the video data from 1386 00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,760 vernal that we do have right so the one 1387 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:03,040 of the garmin's 1388 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,200 the the the look up worked 1389 00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,680 and what that video worked and then my 1390 00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,160 garmin looking out worked for 27 minutes 1391 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,839 i don't know why it went off which is 1392 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,520 frustrating 1393 00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,400 uh that's up as well as the other video 1394 00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:18,400 from germany the full video which is 1395 00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,920 awesome by the way i mean that's super 1396 00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,200 cool if you haven't seen that it's at 1397 00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,160 night and there is like there is a uap 1398 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,680 in there 1399 00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,760 so that's the main data so that's one 1400 00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:29,599 the second probably 1401 00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:31,760 kind of so we got vernal germany for the 1402 00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:34,240 sky 360. and then the third one the 1403 00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:35,920 milestone i think we need to really need 1404 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,559 to handle right now is the process that 1405 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:40,160 that you kind of talk through so there's 1406 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,680 gonna be so much data 1407 00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:43,440 you know or how do you analyze all this 1408 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,640 stuff you know how do you take a 1409 00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,720 decentralized organization and get 1410 00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:48,640 anything useful out of it 1411 00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,720 so i think that's the process we need 1412 00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:51,920 is to figure out what we're going to 1413 00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:53,119 propose we kind of talked through that 1414 00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:54,800 before we need people talking on there 1415 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,400 you know interested people come up with 1416 00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,400 ideas putting out proposals that don't 1417 00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,480 suck right 1418 00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,079 some sort of voting mechanism you 1419 00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,079 mentioned it you can just 1420 00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,160 the technical part is we can verify if 1421 00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:08,319 you own the nft if you own an nft if 1422 00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,800 you're a holder now you can verify on 1423 00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,720 our discord and you get access to our 1424 00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,119 secret channel essentially that nathan 1425 00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,760 and i know nathan's been there 1426 00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:19,760 and so now when you vote you can you can 1427 00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,680 only get there if you have been verified 1428 00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,520 through nft technology 1429 00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,119 and now you can vote 1430 00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,880 so from there that's how we'll we'll 1431 00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:28,880 pick the science that's how we'll do the 1432 00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:31,440 science right up until now will be us 1433 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,760 right as uap society until we get that 1434 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:35,520 proposal worked out 1435 00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:37,760 so in the future i see that like nathan 1436 00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:39,440 you want to put a sky 360 in your 1437 00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,240 backyard and you live in an area that's 1438 00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,319 near a uap hot spot and we need another 1439 00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,760 one there 1440 00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,520 you put in a proposal 1441 00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,359 let's say you'll do it for six thousand 1442 00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,960 dollars right five thousand in parts and 1443 00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:53,200 another thousand for your time 1444 00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,480 um then we would send you the eth 1445 00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:58,079 and then you would go and do it that's 1446 00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,800 the the goal right the end goal 1447 00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,559 um to get to there but that process now 1448 00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:04,240 is what we need to build now so now we 1449 00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:05,760 get the data 1450 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,200 we're putting it up on uap society 1451 00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,960 youtube so we're just putting it up on 1452 00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:12,559 youtube and the discord so now we're 1453 00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:14,720 just like here's the data 1454 00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,240 but then we do need someone to actually 1455 00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,480 research it so what we're doing is 1456 00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:20,480 we offered a giveaway so anyone that 1457 00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:22,720 finds valuable science out of it 1458 00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:24,400 we will give you an nft so basically 1459 00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,760 we're paying we're kind of like poor 1460 00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,599 man's paying people 1461 00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:29,920 uh right now to go and do some analysis 1462 00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,760 or make it exciting but at the end of 1463 00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:33,440 the day we need a process and i think it 1464 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,839 needs to go to 1465 00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,240 a uh 1466 00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:38,880 a database so a blockchain database to 1467 00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:40,319 store all this stuff and then we need 1468 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,119 some some research teams looking at it 1469 00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,280 nice long long hopefully that was 1470 00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,640 excellent thank you 1471 00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,400 yeah also i want to say to the the 1472 00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,480 audience out there that's listening uh 1473 00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,319 it it can be a little bit of a challenge 1474 00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,800 getting on discord i tried to join chris 1475 00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:56,800 on friday i was not able to get up on 1476 00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:00,240 there but i'm gonna seek out counsel and 1477 00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,760 try to get on there otherwise i'll just 1478 00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:03,599 unfriend chris i'm just kidding i won't 1479 00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:08,470 that's right that's where you laugh 1480 00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:10,400 chris come on work with me tip your 1481 00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,920 bartenders away 1482 00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:13,599 discord yeah i don't know why people are 1483 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:15,280 having issues it was the it was the 1484 00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:16,480 captcha 1485 00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:20,079 wouldn't send the text to my phone and 1486 00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,599 because it didn't send a text to my 1487 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,359 phone i couldn't resolve the capture but 1488 00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,960 anyway you're not the only one lara 1489 00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:26,640 we'll get that figured out and let's go 1490 00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,440 with we have kevin deb and steph that 1491 00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:31,200 got to get in here so i'm gonna shut my 1492 00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:36,870 all right well i was just wondering once 1493 00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:38,559 you have all these 1494 00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:41,040 everything set up i mean um 1495 00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,960 at some point you're gonna you're gonna 1496 00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:44,559 you're gonna get uh capture some 1497 00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:47,359 sensitive material you know i mean 1498 00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,040 what's going to happen 1499 00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:50,880 if that in that case am i going to have 1500 00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:52,720 will smith knocking on my door you know 1501 00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:55,680 with his you know smile you know is that 1502 00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,760 going to happen to me 1503 00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:59,359 i don't well 1504 00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,720 i guess why would they knock on your 1505 00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,559 door i guess 1506 00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,319 i don't know what to say 1507 00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:05,680 if i you know well yeah are they going 1508 00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,829 i don't know i mean 1509 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,160 i think we'll only have issues if we put 1510 00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,480 our camera systems in 1511 00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:16,400 sensitive locations 1512 00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,200 okay 1513 00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:19,440 you know if we put it in your backyard 1514 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:20,240 and 1515 00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,520 it's 1516 00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:23,359 you're not pointing your camera right 1517 00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:24,800 into a 1518 00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:28,400 you know area 50 51 or whatever uh if 1519 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,359 it's 1520 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,680 i don't see how they can stop us from 1521 00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:33,680 from looking up 1522 00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:34,480 cool 1523 00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,200 can you uh publish that data though if 1524 00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:38,960 it is yeah well the way is just to 1525 00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,150 can i reframe what kevin said i think 1526 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:49,920 what he's talking about let's say that 1527 00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:52,160 that kevin's able to capture something 1528 00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,160 on a system that he got from you and he 1529 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:56,559 captures it and he puts it on youtube 1530 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,880 and then somebody sees that from the 1531 00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,480 three-letter agency and knocks on his 1532 00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:01,760 door that 1533 00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,000 there there is it is plausible at least 1534 00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,319 i mean i'm i'm not a conspiracy theorist 1535 00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:08,000 but it's plausible 1536 00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:09,839 yeah well 1537 00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,000 it wouldn't be yeah but that's not how 1538 00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:14,319 it should work you know ideally the 1539 00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:16,960 whole point of sky 360 is that 1540 00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,079 uh 1541 00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:20,480 the data will automatically go 1542 00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:22,640 and will automatically be 1543 00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:23,520 uh 1544 00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,880 published 1545 00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:26,960 open source and i'm sure this scares the 1546 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,559 hell out of a lot of 1547 00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,720 a lot of organizations out there and my 1548 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:32,720 my rebuttal is why 1549 00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:35,200 you know right yeah and the reason is 1550 00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:36,799 transparency right 1551 00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,559 yeah it's not it's not illegal they 1552 00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:40,000 can't take it from you it's not the 1553 00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:41,520 1950s 1554 00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:43,119 uh so 1555 00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,880 what's their what's their reason yeah 1556 00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:46,319 and that's the other reason i'm doing 1557 00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,960 this decentralized nft stuff because 1558 00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:50,640 your answer back 1559 00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:51,760 highlights 1560 00:54:56,580 --> 00:54:54,880 argument 1561 00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,590 your the the way they do it the 1562 00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,240 [Music] 1563 00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:00,160 there's no reasonable answer because the 1564 00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,720 the decentralization in open source is 1565 00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:04,400 for transparency 1566 00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:06,480 so 1567 00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:07,760 that's what they're fighting against 1568 00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,480 yeah they're fighting against 1569 00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:10,240 transparency yeah 1570 00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:12,880 yeah they they they coach it as 1571 00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:16,789 i'll try man 1572 00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:19,520 chris your audience does rely on you for 1573 00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:21,920 you know credible evidence and 1574 00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,079 this right here is just a perfect 1575 00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,640 example for the listeners to hear that 1576 00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:28,720 hey you're putting these programs in 1577 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:31,280 place for people to set this equipment 1578 00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:34,640 up in their backyard if this is an area 1579 00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,200 that you guys need this like localized 1580 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,520 area to gain more 1581 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,839 information so i mean that's extremely 1582 00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,520 promising because you have a pretty 1583 00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,079 great platform and people rely on you 1584 00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,200 upon that you know information so i 1585 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,680 applaud you guys for that um you know 1586 00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,760 this is very promising information here 1587 00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,680 so thank you for doing that that's 1588 00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,280 wonderful 1589 00:56:03,349 --> 00:55:59,280 yeah thanks steve yeah there's a lot of 1590 00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,359 pressure um yeah for sure yeah logan has 1591 00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,960 a question in there i think it's weird i 1592 00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,720 just wanted to say that that's that's 1593 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,480 awesome 1594 00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,480 uh logan has a good question in there i 1595 00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:12,480 think it may be too early for to ask 1596 00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:16,960 this but how much does the system cost 1597 00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:19,839 the actual sky 360. so they're designing 1598 00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:23,040 it the low end one is is one thousand 1599 00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:24,160 yeah 1600 00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:28,720 three so one thousand dollars three 1601 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:32,000 thousand and then the top end is 5 000 1602 00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,280 just for the hardware though you got to 1603 00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:36,000 put it together you know time and effort 1604 00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:37,119 yeah 1605 00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,240 basically if you're taking your bmw in 1606 00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:42,319 for service you're going to rotate tires 1607 00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,520 and all change you're probably at a 1608 00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,880 grand right there 1609 00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:47,040 so uh not that i mean well the other 1610 00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:49,119 thing is it it's difficult for one 1611 00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:51,119 person to to 1612 00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:53,200 afford that that's a big ask right i 1613 00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,040 mean let's say so you gotta not only do 1614 00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,359 you have to spend months 1615 00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:59,119 or whatever however long hopefully it 1616 00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,559 doesn't take months but you have to 1617 00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,760 spend all the time putting these things 1618 00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:03,520 together right ordering the parts 1619 00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:05,200 getting them all in 1620 00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,880 some of them maybe you know the supply 1621 00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,480 issues you've got to find other 1622 00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:09,599 other parts 1623 00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:11,440 putting them together right you also 1624 00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,799 have to pay 1625 00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:14,799 five thousand dollars or whatever you 1626 00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:15,599 know 1627 00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,520 um i think just 1628 00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:19,359 making it so that they don't also have 1629 00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:20,960 to pay 1630 00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:22,960 is a huge difference 1631 00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:25,119 you know or or the people that want to 1632 00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,480 pay but they don't want to put in all 1633 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:28,319 the time you know like say that you just 1634 00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,960 have tons of money or you want to invest 1635 00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,240 right you really want to invest in this 1636 00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:34,160 or you want to support but you don't 1637 00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:36,640 have the time energy to go and put all 1638 00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,000 this stuff together to volunteer all 1639 00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:40,000 your sundays right which all these sky 1640 00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:41,760 360 people are doing so they can just 1641 00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:44,480 give the money you know so 1642 00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,200 that's why it seems like such a such a 1643 00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:50,000 simple concept yes why did i do it it's 1644 00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:51,200 not 1645 00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:56,480 you know it's more i've seen i've seen i 1646 00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:59,200 see a clear path like i see a clear 1647 00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:01,119 opportunity 1648 00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,359 and you know it's not guaranteed to 1649 00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:05,760 succeed by any means you know but i see 1650 00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,160 a path that could change can make a 1651 00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:10,640 serious serious dent 1652 00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,400 uh in a lot of things 1653 00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,319 and and so that's why i feel obli like i 1654 00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,799 feel like i'm required to take it like i 1655 00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,079 i owe it 1656 00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:20,000 to somebody i don't know who but 1657 00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,069 i would just imagine if an investor came 1658 00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,920 along and decided hey i'm gonna grant 1659 00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:29,920 you five thousand dollars to perform 1660 00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,319 this research that's a write-off right 1661 00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,480 there that's a donation so if there are 1662 00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:36,000 any philanthropists that are watching 1663 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,520 this which i'm sure there will be a 1664 00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,040 couple along the way 1665 00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:41,520 that is a write-off so i mean you're 1666 00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:43,520 investing towards our future and finding 1667 00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,440 out the truth so 1668 00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:48,400 let's let's go let's do this we yeah we 1669 00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,160 set up for people that just don't want 1670 00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:52,240 to do crypto we set up a gofundme on our 1671 00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:53,520 website 1672 00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:57,119 um and if they if we can send them nfts 1673 00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,880 in return you know we we don't want to 1674 00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:00,720 be construed as like 1675 00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:02,559 an exchange right so we don't want to be 1676 00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,640 giving people crypto 1677 00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:06,720 but if they really can't understand it 1678 00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:09,200 and they give money we will give nfts in 1679 00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,480 return 1680 00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:12,240 you know as long as it doesn't put us in 1681 00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:13,760 any sort of issue with the sec or 1682 00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:14,799 something 1683 00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:16,400 that's a great idea they can always go 1684 00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:18,319 fund me and we'll do our best to try and 1685 00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:20,559 get them nfts as a receipt 1686 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:22,880 if they really don't exactly don't want 1687 00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,400 to figure it out i'm like yeah i try to 1688 00:59:29,650 --> 00:59:28,000 some people won't even accept them for 1689 00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,660 free you know be like look i will give 1690 00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:31,359 [Laughter] 1691 00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:34,870 it won't even touch it it's like if i'm 1692 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:37,280 like going around just like before cash 1693 00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,119 existed it was like here man take this 1694 00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:41,119 like i promise you will like this you 1695 00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:43,119 know here's a hundred dollars 1696 00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:45,520 here's 100 bill i promise you'll enjoy 1697 00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:47,119 this in like 10 years or something i 1698 00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:48,559 know yeah i was going to do that and 1699 00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:50,319 people were like no way man i'm not 1700 00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,319 touching that stuff yeah i was going to 1701 00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:54,720 send you and alexi cashing in envelopes 1702 00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:56,000 i i don't know 1703 01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,880 debs what do you got for either alexi 1704 01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:00,960 chris or both all these well this is 1705 01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,920 sort of a both question i i too am one 1706 01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,920 of those people that would be hesitant 1707 01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:07,920 and nervous about doing something like 1708 01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,839 this so my question 1709 01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,280 is what do you tell people who are 1710 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:13,520 concerned about security related to 1711 01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:16,160 their money going into this 1712 01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:19,359 uh security so i guess i would say 1713 01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:21,680 it's more secure 1714 01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:25,119 if you take a few simple precautions 1715 01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:27,440 right so if if you understand the very 1716 01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,040 very basics 1717 01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:31,040 it's actually more secure than your 1718 01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:34,000 current your credit cards uh who have 1719 01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:35,839 probably i mean how many people just 1720 01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,470 yeah just on the screen right so to 1721 01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:44,319 think that our current system is secure 1722 01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:47,359 is just naive right i mean look how many 1723 01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:49,440 two out of three out of the six of us 1724 01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:50,480 have had our 1725 01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:52,799 credit cards hacked 1726 01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:55,040 so it's actually much more secure than 1727 01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:56,799 the current system but 1728 01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:59,200 if they get your recovery phrase right 1729 01:01:02,870 --> 01:01:00,880 if they get your 12 1730 01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,880 word secret recovery phrase you're 1731 01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,720 screwed right but that's the strength of 1732 01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:06,799 it because if you lose everything and 1733 01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,359 you have your 12 word recovery phrase 1734 01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:11,359 from anywhere on the planet 1735 01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:13,920 that you can you can access your funds 1736 01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:15,359 right so it's a 1737 01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:16,400 but if you lose that thing you're 1738 01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:18,559 totally screwed right there's no access 1739 01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:20,480 if somebody gets those 12 word that 1740 01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:22,319 secret recovery phrase you're also 1741 01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:23,760 totally screwed right they can they can 1742 01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:25,680 empty your account immediately 1743 01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:28,400 um so once you just understand that 1744 01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:29,520 basic 1745 01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:30,319 thing 1746 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:31,920 right and 1747 01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:33,760 and really when can that happen is when 1748 01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:36,160 you interact when you take your wallet 1749 01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:38,160 your digital wallet which is like your 1750 01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:39,920 bank account and when you connect it to 1751 01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:42,559 a website right when you let it interact 1752 01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:44,720 with another website that's when you can 1753 01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:46,000 be vulnerable 1754 01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,079 so they trick you into interacting with 1755 01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:50,240 the wrong website 1756 01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:51,920 you know or there's there's small tricks 1757 01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:53,119 like that 1758 01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,079 um but the actual inherent 1759 01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:58,880 um security is is much better 1760 01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,799 so there there's just some basic 1761 01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,799 honestly it doesn't take it's not even 1762 01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,640 that long it's just new it's just new 1763 01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:06,960 that that's all there's just 1764 01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:17,349 that sounds as though something fell and 1765 01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:19,280 a green screen background uh my face is 1766 01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:21,920 all red okay it's okay 1767 01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:22,960 it happens 1768 01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:25,599 everybody this is my garage 1769 01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:28,480 f16 pilots they're just like us 1770 01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:29,680 we're human 1771 01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:31,440 my face is red now 1772 01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:32,480 what is that 1773 01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:33,520 this is a 1774 01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:36,079 hardware wallet cold storage 1775 01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,240 right 1776 01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,480 so i plug this in 1777 01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:42,240 whenever this is plugged in i'm like 1778 01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:44,559 sweating man i'm so nervous it's okay 1779 01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:45,920 dude we're everyone whenever this is 1780 01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:49,039 plugged in i can't uh knowing 1781 01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,799 when this is not plugged in no one can 1782 01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:52,480 interact with my funds 1783 01:02:56,470 --> 01:02:54,640 right you see this usb 1784 01:02:59,029 --> 01:02:56,480 this thing's got to be plugged in 1785 01:03:00,870 --> 01:02:59,039 for anyone to touch my touch my meta 1786 01:03:02,950 --> 01:03:00,880 mask 1787 01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,960 so i just don't plug it in right and 1788 01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:04,720 when i want to actually when i want to 1789 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:06,319 connect right when i want to interact 1790 01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:07,920 with another website 1791 01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:09,520 then that's when i 1792 01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:11,599 basically plug this thing in and now my 1793 01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:13,760 money is being used so 1794 01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:15,440 it doesn't matter if people even have my 1795 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:16,640 account they could have all of my 1796 01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,920 account information except for my 1797 01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:19,760 recovery phrase right well even that's 1798 01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:20,799 on here 1799 01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,079 they can have all the information but 1800 01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:23,920 they don't have this usb 1801 01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:25,920 they can't touch it 1802 01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:26,799 so 1803 01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,720 but but that's new right you don't know 1804 01:03:31,349 --> 01:03:30,559 this seems like crazy to you right like 1805 01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:31,359 a 1806 01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,039 then i pull it out now it's like 1807 01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:51,200 on this nobody can touch it if i lose 1808 01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:53,039 this i'm screwed though 1809 01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:54,720 actually take that back there's another 1810 01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:57,520 recovery phrase for this 1811 01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:58,960 so yeah it's just different it's just 1812 01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:00,400 different stuff 1813 01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:02,000 you just have to learn it 1814 01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:03,200 uh 1815 01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:04,240 yeah 1816 01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:08,720 folks like us uh 1817 01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,119 i think after debs did you have anything 1818 01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:12,960 further that you wanted to ask chris or 1819 01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:15,599 alexeo i had the same question about the 1820 01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:17,520 money like how much this was going to 1821 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:20,480 cost like the ideal sum and it sounds 1822 01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,440 like it's going to be roughly 6 000 for 1823 01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:25,520 the ideal sum and that was kind of 1824 01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:26,559 answered 1825 01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,000 so 1826 01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:30,960 yeah but the sum to invest the lowest is 1827 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:34,480 is uh right now it's 150 per nft 1828 01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,440 okay 1829 01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:37,200 that's the cheapest we can make it yeah 1830 01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:38,559 because the transaction costs on 1831 01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:41,440 ethereum are they're going to be high 1832 01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:44,000 so it doesn't make 1833 01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:46,960 we might as well print 10 000 that cost 1834 01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:48,559 0.1 ethereum 1835 01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:51,280 rather than 18 million that cost you 1836 01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,799 know a few pennies that's what they do 1837 01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:54,960 with these other tokens 1838 01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:56,640 um but they're not as cool as nfts i 1839 01:05:01,349 --> 01:04:59,599 think yeah that's cool man i'll get one 1840 01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:01,359 that's that sounds good 1841 01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:02,799 um 1842 01:05:08,549 --> 01:05:05,119 we can go back to the money man or the 1843 01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:08,559 nft man we haven't decided yet 1844 01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,079 yeah so uh i'm glad you brought the 1845 01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,559 ledger up i actually have one as well um 1846 01:05:17,829 --> 01:05:14,799 and and yeah feel free to put your 1847 01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:17,839 backdrop up that's totally fine 1848 01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:21,119 great looking garage by the way also um 1849 01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:23,039 so yeah i have that as well and i got to 1850 01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:24,480 tell you it did take me some time just 1851 01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:26,160 to kind of get used to 1852 01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:28,880 the crypto kind of environment but 1853 01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:31,119 but if you're a person that that likes 1854 01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,039 to learn that you're going to put in the 1855 01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:34,640 time to kind of learn something and ask 1856 01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,599 questions 1857 01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:37,280 you know i think it's a fun little thing 1858 01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:39,599 to get involved in again 1859 01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,920 back to the financial advice though 1860 01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:43,440 don't play with money you don't want to 1861 01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:45,599 lose right so you can you can get into 1862 01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:48,720 crypto with very little of your own 1863 01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,960 investment very little of your own funds 1864 01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:52,799 but if you put in a bunch of money and 1865 01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,920 all of a sudden you turn around you 1866 01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:55,760 realize you know you lost it or it 1867 01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,359 didn't didn't 1868 01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:59,200 you know it didn't accrue a lot of 1869 01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:00,960 interest or something it's it's you know 1870 01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:02,480 that that's the same advice that i would 1871 01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:04,480 give to anybody who's investing in a 1872 01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:07,119 fortune 100 or fortune 500 company if 1873 01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:08,559 that company tanks you're not going to 1874 01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:09,920 get your money back sorry that's how 1875 01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,559 investing works so it's not really any 1876 01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:14,640 different i think it's just it's a new 1877 01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:16,880 frontier in terms of 1878 01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:19,039 when it comes to assets when it comes to 1879 01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:20,480 you know really look i think a lot of 1880 01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,160 people like you said chris earlier like 1881 01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:23,920 let me look at this art and say well i 1882 01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,599 could just make a screenshot of that or 1883 01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:27,200 whatever but but they don't quite 1884 01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:28,880 understand the technology yes you can 1885 01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:30,880 make a screenshot of it but the proof of 1886 01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:33,440 ownership of the art itself is tied to 1887 01:06:38,470 --> 01:06:36,240 the blockchain so you you have a 1888 01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:38,480 verifiable way of saying that it is in 1889 01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:40,559 fact your art 1890 01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:42,640 and with the society the way that the 1891 01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:44,640 art functions is almost kind of like a 1892 01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:45,680 membership 1893 01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:47,760 right it's it's a it's it's like they 1894 01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:49,039 think of it as a 1895 01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:51,280 as a voting club or you know it's it's 1896 01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:52,720 your past 1897 01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:55,280 key to be part of that organization 1898 01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,480 and to 1899 01:07:00,789 --> 01:06:58,480 i guess if you're part of the 42 to make 1900 01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:00,799 decisions on the proposals but you don't 1901 01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:02,559 even need that right so anybody can be a 1902 01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:05,039 part of the discord and make suggestions 1903 01:07:08,710 --> 01:07:07,200 anybody can ultimately do the research 1904 01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:08,720 right like when you make the research 1905 01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:10,799 available you could prov you could post 1906 01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:12,319 some guidelines on certain things that 1907 01:07:17,349 --> 01:07:14,640 you guys want the public you know who's 1908 01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:17,359 not maybe even purchased an nft they 1909 01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:18,880 could go to the website they could comb 1910 01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,240 through the data and they could be given 1911 01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:22,400 some guidelines on what to look for and 1912 01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:23,520 then kind of 1913 01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:24,880 point that out to you is that something 1914 01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:27,200 that you envision like how accessible 1915 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:29,200 will the data be to people that may not 1916 01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:32,640 even want to buy an nft 1917 01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:34,400 yeah that's the main difference i think 1918 01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,680 between us and 1919 01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:37,680 i would argue 1920 01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:39,920 most other organizations is that we want 1921 01:07:44,549 --> 01:07:42,400 to just post it 1922 01:07:46,789 --> 01:07:44,559 you know i don't care who comes up with 1923 01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,799 the answers 1924 01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:48,559 we don't care 1925 01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:49,920 and that's the thing if you're really 1926 01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:52,000 focused on getting the results then it 1927 01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,839 shouldn't matter right 1928 01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:55,520 so if you're not going to share your 1929 01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:57,280 information then why aren't you sharing 1930 01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:59,200 your information 1931 01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:01,440 that's you know so i think that we 1932 01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:03,520 should share it fully right if anyone 1933 01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:05,119 wants to come in and help i would ask 1934 01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:07,039 that they tell us that they found some 1935 01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:09,119 amazing thing you know so we're not all 1936 01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:11,280 looking over here i i hope that they 1937 01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:13,119 they return the favor 1938 01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:14,079 you know 1939 01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:15,680 i would be naive to think that that's 1940 01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:18,000 going to happen every time 1941 01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:19,440 but i think the right thing to do is get 1942 01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,640 the information out there and get the 1943 01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:22,560 most people looking at it 1944 01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:25,279 and we we're not just we we want we need 1945 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,040 those people to come 1946 01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:30,000 we need those people there 1947 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,480 you're you're people yeah 1948 01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,400 you're pure of heart with this i mean 1949 01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:36,400 that's obvious and that's what that's 1950 01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:39,679 why we're here uh because if we didn't 1951 01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,359 think that you wouldn't be on the show 1952 01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:43,759 right now but we know that you are 1953 01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,759 trying to bring something you and 1954 01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:48,000 there's others obviously you apx and 1955 01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:49,520 there's other people that are trying to 1956 01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:52,480 you you mentioned avi loeb uh 1957 01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:54,080 last time you were on 1958 01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,120 um 1959 01:08:59,189 --> 01:08:56,960 but but you know we definitely believe 1960 01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:59,199 in in what you're doing and we do need 1961 01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,159 to have research that's not encumbered 1962 01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:04,560 or controlled by any government 1963 01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:07,199 because a lot of governments right now 1964 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:08,799 we have like 1965 01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:10,480 two governments on the planet that are 1966 01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:12,319 really tough maybe three the chileans 1967 01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:14,480 the brazilians and us and nobody else is 1968 01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:15,920 talking about it 1969 01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:18,799 um so it's very important what you're 1970 01:09:24,070 --> 01:09:22,799 doing let's get a last round uh for 1971 01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:24,080 everybody 1972 01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,759 um so kevin uh what and i'll at the end 1973 01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:29,920 i want to try to connect with alexey 1974 01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:32,239 because i i'm not connected with him on 1975 01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:34,319 twitter but i'd like to try to connect 1976 01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:36,960 he and david mason to talk tech and see 1977 01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:38,560 if the sensors 1978 01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:41,600 that david mason has built might be of 1979 01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:42,719 service 1980 01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:45,600 uh to you and you to him 1981 01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:46,799 so 1982 01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,279 i'll try to make that connection but uh 1983 01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,359 go ahead uh the skate case right at the 1984 01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:53,759 skate case 1985 01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,560 okay yeah i will yeah that's on uh 1986 01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:58,000 twitter 1987 01:10:02,470 --> 01:09:59,840 at the skate case 1988 01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,480 i love it are you a skateboarder uh but 1989 01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:04,400 you know i skated from class to class 1990 01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,199 for a couple years 1991 01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:09,120 i do i do want to recommend that he uses 1992 01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:11,040 some sunscreen i don't know if he's just 1993 01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:13,760 naturally dark complexity 1994 01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:14,640 so 1995 01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,990 if i could ask that to let let's say and 1996 01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:22,159 uh also chris get your thoughts too but 1997 01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:23,760 what are some of the intriguing lines of 1998 01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:24,960 science and alissa i know you've got a 1999 01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:26,719 lot of theories on you know kind of what 2000 01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:28,159 this all is and 2001 01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:32,159 but in terms of we talked about sky 360. 2002 01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:34,080 if we're using those units what are some 2003 01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:36,159 things that kind of pique your interest 2004 01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:38,000 in the collection efforts that those 2005 01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,600 modules will do as far as sky 360 uh 2006 01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:44,080 it'll allow us to triangulate right and 2007 01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:45,440 also 2008 01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:46,560 in a way 2009 01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:48,239 not have to be so observant right 2010 01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,760 because the artificial intelligent 2011 01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:51,360 program will be doing the observing for 2012 01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,440 us so by having these devices aimed at 2013 01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,800 the sky all night 2014 01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:56,239 um they'll be able to be able to 2015 01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:57,840 identify it was that an airplane was 2016 01:11:02,630 --> 01:10:59,440 that a bird and then when it sees 2017 01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:02,640 something anomalous it focuses in 2018 01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,640 zooms in you get a second line of sight 2019 01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,640 and now you can triangulate 2020 01:11:10,149 --> 01:11:08,560 so not only do we have 2021 01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:10,159 you know a nice 2022 01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:12,800 visual visible spectrum image but you 2023 01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:14,560 also have triangulation so you get 2024 01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:16,880 distance you get size uh 2025 01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:19,040 as far as sky 360 i think that being 2026 01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:20,560 would be one of the most beneficial 2027 01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:22,320 things coming out of it 2028 01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:24,080 um and then if we like chris is saying 2029 01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,520 make a souped-up version where we throw 2030 01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:27,440 on the muppets device 2031 01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:30,159 now we can see background spikes or 2032 01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:32,560 changes in the gravity field as well as 2033 01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:38,390 nice that's great excellent yeah it's a 2034 01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,040 discriminator it it knows what prosaic 2035 01:11:45,189 --> 01:11:43,520 things look like and it just it just i 2036 01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,199 don't know i don't have the proper word 2037 01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:47,360 it throws those to the side it doesn't 2038 01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:49,360 ping on those but it does ping on 2039 01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:50,800 something that it doesn't understand 2040 01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:52,080 what it is 2041 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:54,159 exactly yeah so basically the artificial 2042 01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:55,760 that's the idea too is the programming 2043 01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:57,360 of the artificial intelligence once 2044 01:12:00,630 --> 01:11:58,800 that's out there that same type of 2045 01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:00,640 programming can be translated 2046 01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:02,719 potentially into other systems 2047 01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:04,800 um but right now it's primarily being 2048 01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:06,960 developed specifically for the sky 360 2049 01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:09,280 fisheye lens as far as i understand 2050 01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:11,360 so yeah that is that is really cool 2051 01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:14,000 stuff and when you talk about emi 2052 01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:16,880 it's almost a given that when one of 2053 01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:19,520 these craft or orbs appears there is 2054 01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,840 going to be 2055 01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:23,280 electromagnetic um 2056 01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:26,480 disturbance or a change in a in it in an 2057 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:29,520 ami field a signature that you can see 2058 01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:32,800 that when i i would i would think almost 2059 01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,320 any i hate to say all every always but 2060 01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,640 nearly any any uap you would think that 2061 01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:41,040 there would be some sort of a spike in 2062 01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:42,800 electromagnetic interference when they 2063 01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:44,480 show up definitely i mean if you're 2064 01:12:48,310 --> 01:12:46,239 creating a distortion within space-time 2065 01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:48,320 itself then you're distorting the actual 2066 01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:50,159 what i call light state of the universe 2067 01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,920 right the incoming and outgoing light of 2068 01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,760 our now moment and so basically you 2069 01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:55,360 would see distortions uh whenever 2070 01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:56,719 there's some type of 2071 01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,760 inertial craft being used 2072 01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:01,440 awesome what is your degree in if you 2073 01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:03,679 don't mind telling the audience i have 2074 01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:05,840 my background in astrophysics physics 2075 01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:07,760 planetary science and astronomy that's 2076 01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:10,560 from university of colorado and then uh 2077 01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:12,400 to basically design equipment i went 2078 01:13:16,149 --> 01:13:13,760 ahead and got a masters in mechanical 2079 01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:16,159 engineering so that way the focus was on 2080 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:17,679 building devices 2081 01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:19,280 in order to take people back to the moon 2082 01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:20,640 at the end of the day 2083 01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:21,760 yeah 2084 01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:23,440 like we should let's do it in space 2085 01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:25,600 balloon himself you really could be more 2086 01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:31,110 you really could be more productive with 2087 01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:32,320 your time with all these students i'm 2088 01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:35,280 just kidding that's it that's that's 2089 01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:37,280 impressive i want to see alexi up at 2090 01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,600 creststone have all his stuff set up 2091 01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:41,600 there man i guarantee something's going 2092 01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:44,480 to show up guaranteed so well that's 2093 01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:46,480 what i think consciousness aspect has a 2094 01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:48,159 lot to do with it too right i mean when 2095 01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:50,000 you tie in the ce5 2096 01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,760 in a way method so when you have the 2097 01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:53,440 intent of going out and looking for 2098 01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:54,960 something 2099 01:13:59,430 --> 01:13:57,199 you're more likely to find it so i think 2100 01:14:02,070 --> 01:13:59,440 uh by just having intent alone and these 2101 01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:02,080 people setting up the sky 360 systems 2102 01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:02,960 it'll 2103 01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:09,920 i i yeah i mean 2104 01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:11,440 it seems like there's definitely a 2105 01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:14,159 congruity there uh congress there let's 2106 01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:17,040 get uh deb in for her her final or 2107 01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:18,800 actually kevin what you got for your 2108 01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:24,070 oh i don't have anything i'm just here 2109 01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:26,840 to learn and listen like it you know i'm 2110 01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:28,239 doing a little thing 2111 01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,000 i don't know what i think can i answer 2112 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,000 nathan's question i've wanted to yeah i 2113 01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:34,480 had a few exciting lines um 2114 01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:36,080 i know edgar mitchell he was the 2115 01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:38,080 astronaut after he came back from the 2116 01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,239 moon he started the institute of noetic 2117 01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:42,560 sciences right and i guess his big thing 2118 01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,120 was to try and find a link 2119 01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,920 a psycho a psychokinetic link 2120 01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,360 some other way to communicate like 2121 01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:52,000 remote viewing 2122 01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:55,040 or just some way to communicate outside 2123 01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,640 of our normal emf you know 2124 01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:58,000 electromagnetic 2125 01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:00,320 frequency stuff that we're all used to 2126 01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:02,159 and i know he was wanting to prove that 2127 01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,679 that seems really exciting to me you 2128 01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,440 know i think we can do that in a not 2129 01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,520 very expensive way 2130 01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:09,199 through games you know if we could 2131 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,760 develop a iphone app 2132 01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:13,679 that could get actual maybe 2133 01:15:16,709 --> 01:15:14,480 not 2134 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:16,719 maybe uh scientific level data but if it 2135 01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:19,760 could get large data you know 2136 01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:21,360 numbers 2137 01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,640 could we do that 2138 01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,719 and maybe it wouldn't take so much money 2139 01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,280 you know it would be more organizational 2140 01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:29,280 effort 2141 01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,960 so i think that'd be really exciting to 2142 01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:32,800 come up with try and find some sort of 2143 01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:34,960 experiments that research that find that 2144 01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:35,840 link 2145 01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:36,880 between 2146 01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:40,480 that would be exciting another one that 2147 01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:42,880 i've heard of is uh 2148 01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:45,840 i what is it iec itc 2149 01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:48,080 uh anyway what you do is you basically 2150 01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:50,239 you set out a recording device 2151 01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:53,360 and then you ask questions and now back 2152 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,520 in the recording you can hear answers 2153 01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:57,760 this seems just crazy to me um again 2154 01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:01,199 that's another way of communication 2155 01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:03,679 uh that seems 2156 01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:06,159 could it be true you know um it's 2157 01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:07,600 certainly something we can test for 2158 01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:08,800 right so you can make scientific 2159 01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:10,880 experiments that test is that real you 2160 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:11,600 know 2161 01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:14,080 can you can you talk to people behind 2162 01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:15,600 that aren't there i mean that would be 2163 01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:17,600 mind-blowing to me 2164 01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:19,040 that could be proven 2165 01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:21,120 yeah i think they call it maybe evp the 2166 01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:22,560 electronics yeah i've heard many 2167 01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:24,560 different ways 2168 01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:26,320 but basically you're asking questions 2169 01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:27,600 and you're recording through some 2170 01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:30,239 electronic device or recording device 2171 01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:31,600 and you when you listen to that 2172 01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:34,800 recording again you hear answers wow so 2173 01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:37,040 i've had people talk about 2174 01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:38,640 in certain areas as well like i've heard 2175 01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:40,880 it's localized not localized anyway i 2176 01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:43,040 think that's that would be crazy to 2177 01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:44,640 analyze that and it doesn't seem like it 2178 01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:46,480 would cost so much money 2179 01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:48,400 i think that's one avenue 2180 01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:50,560 and then i've always wanted to still 2181 01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:51,760 want to make an interdimensional 2182 01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:53,679 telescope or whatever i want to figure 2183 01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:56,080 out what alex what is inside alexei's 2184 01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:57,120 brain 2185 01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:58,480 that means 2186 01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:01,120 telescope i think it's a pyramid shape 2187 01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:02,960 i think it's some sort of pyramid that 2188 01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:04,400 we'd have to put 2189 01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,280 in some sort of localized area you know 2190 01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:09,199 that's famous for this type of stuff and 2191 01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:11,199 then put alexei inside 2192 01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:12,480 if you can like 2193 01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:19,430 incident right and basically the guy 2194 01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:21,280 gets a binary download he ends up 2195 01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:22,560 writing off the binary code in the 2196 01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:24,480 middle of the night and it says progress 2197 01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:26,400 for humanity is at these magnetic hot 2198 01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:27,440 spots 2199 01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,760 all over the earth um and he literally 2200 01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:31,600 gives out the longitude and latitude if 2201 01:17:34,709 --> 01:17:33,600 that is what the binary translation 2202 01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:34,719 really is 2203 01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:35,920 and from my understanding there's 2204 01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:38,080 different flows of space um there's 2205 01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:40,239 different densities that we're tuned to 2206 01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,760 essentially and each one of our 2207 01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:43,440 conscious harmonics is tuned to a 2208 01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:46,159 certain orbit within spacetime itself 2209 01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:47,679 and so when you have these vortices 2210 01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,679 coming in at these different locations 2211 01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:52,080 and it's literally binary code saying 2212 01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:54,159 advancement of mine of mankind is at 2213 01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:56,800 these positions it seems obvious you put 2214 01:18:01,270 --> 01:17:58,640 an interdimensional telescope at those 2215 01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:01,280 positions and you'll be able to see into 2216 01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:04,239 the next layers of experience 2217 01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:05,440 meaning like 2218 01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:06,880 portals that already exist within 2219 01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:08,960 spacetime itself 2220 01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:10,400 and you could use a collimator to 2221 01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:11,840 collimate the energy to naturally 2222 01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:14,960 harmonize with our wake waking state 2223 01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:16,000 yeah 2224 01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:18,719 worth a try is that it i mean geez it's 2225 01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:24,070 honestly that's so incredible because i 2226 01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,320 hear a lot of events from experiencers 2227 01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:28,800 where they hear almost an auditory 2228 01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:31,120 illusion so they do 2229 01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:32,960 they hear sounds 2230 01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:35,199 such as say the binary code i've heard 2231 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:36,159 of that 2232 01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:39,520 buzzing keynotes of c keynotes of a so 2233 01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,719 is that some sort of communication is 2234 01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:44,880 that something that we can actually go 2235 01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:46,960 through and 2236 01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:47,760 you know 2237 01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:50,560 identify some some form of speaking and 2238 01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:52,080 you know like they were saying you and 2239 01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:53,440 david mason 2240 01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:54,719 would really 2241 01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:56,320 you guys speak the same language 2242 01:19:01,830 --> 01:18:59,440 scientific technology wise and what he's 2243 01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:01,840 already established is utilizing these 2244 01:19:06,790 --> 01:19:04,640 sounds from whales and he also did 2245 01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:06,800 mention that he's utilizing them in 2246 01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,640 their natural state you know he's not 2247 01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:10,480 they're not gathering their the sounds 2248 01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:12,080 from when they're you know 2249 01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,320 unfortunately in this captivity type 2250 01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,320 state so they're using something that is 2251 01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:19,199 positive and putting that out there 2252 01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:20,880 and then getting back 2253 01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:23,760 some sort of light signal and there 2254 01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:25,280 there's got to be some sort of 2255 01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,120 communication that's got to be some form 2256 01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:29,600 of a language and i just think that you 2257 01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,199 two definitely need to link up and 2258 01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:32,880 connect because i think that you you 2259 01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,960 know these types of things that we're 2260 01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:36,640 thinking about we're exercising our 2261 01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:38,960 minds on the what if these are the 2262 01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:40,960 conversations that need to be had in 2263 01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:42,880 order to establish 2264 01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:44,719 information because we're curious 2265 01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:46,880 because we want to know what the heck is 2266 01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:49,600 out there and i mean it sounds wild and 2267 01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:52,080 and it it it is it's it's a wild thing 2268 01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:53,600 that we're trying to accomplish here 2269 01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:55,760 right and yeah and that's just one 2270 01:19:59,910 --> 01:19:57,840 tangent of what he's doing he has his 2271 01:20:01,590 --> 01:19:59,920 six flea cameras he has these other 2272 01:20:03,910 --> 01:20:01,600 sensors that he he talked about all of 2273 01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,920 them i can't recall what all of them are 2274 01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:05,679 but that community he believes they're 2275 01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:08,560 communicating with us through light yeah 2276 01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:10,400 and so he's communicating back with 2277 01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:13,040 light that's that are those converted 2278 01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:15,280 sound waves yeah i mean 2279 01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:16,880 i think it'd be great to get his system 2280 01:20:20,950 --> 01:20:18,719 on board some balloons or on board some 2281 01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:20,960 sky 360 you know at least talk and 2282 01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:23,199 collaborate and see like where we align 2283 01:20:28,470 --> 01:20:26,080 and what we can do yeah we will work to 2284 01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:28,480 make that happen um i don't have his 2285 01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:31,040 he's not on twitter i'm gonna before 2286 01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:32,800 when we close the show i'll type out 2287 01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:35,199 your what your twitter handle is so that 2288 01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:37,280 i can connect with you but let's let 2289 01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,960 let's let the kraken get in there again 2290 01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:40,880 what's up deb says your your final 2291 01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:42,800 parting shots for these guys i think i 2292 01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:45,440 liked her hermione better okay hermione 2293 01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:46,719 granger 2294 01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:50,000 i wanted to read a comment from elena 2295 01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,679 campbell and then i'm going to do a 2296 01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:54,000 question from baby goat so the comment 2297 01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:55,040 was 2298 01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:57,520 guys did you hear avi slip into a 2299 01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:00,880 symposium speech that he is using crypto 2300 01:21:04,210 --> 01:21:03,840 to raise capital for galileo 2301 01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:04,220 yay 2302 01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:05,520 [Music] 2303 01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:07,040 okay yeah i thought it was quite 2304 01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:08,400 interesting 2305 01:21:14,229 --> 01:21:11,280 right and then um baby goat 2306 01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:14,239 has the question of why go with meta 2307 01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:20,310 uh metamask i've used it i've just used 2308 01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:21,120 it for 2309 01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:23,840 three years now and i know it's i feel 2310 01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:25,280 it's 2311 01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:34,239 common maybe the most used wallet for 2312 01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:35,920 nfts but 2313 01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:38,159 i'm not sure when we did the minting 2314 01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:40,639 uh so to to mint which you can right now 2315 01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:43,679 it's 0.1 0.18 i think that's 150 so i'd 2316 01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:45,840 ask everyone to go if you're interested 2317 01:21:50,830 --> 01:21:48,480 in investing in crypto or in this 2318 01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:50,840 project you can do the gofundme at 2319 01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:53,840 uapsociety.com or you can mint right now 2320 01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:56,880 that means you will pull a random nft 2321 01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:58,800 that we've created it'll just randomly 2322 01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,280 select it and give it to you there's 2323 01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:03,679 seven super rare still left 2324 01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:06,159 and around 265 2325 01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:07,600 rares 2326 01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,000 the rest are commons all different types 2327 01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:12,560 yeah amazing um 2328 01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:15,199 so i would say basically to to go there 2329 01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:17,520 and if you if you want to support 2330 01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:19,360 then you can do that but like we've been 2331 01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:20,639 saying the whole time we just need 2332 01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:22,400 people to be interested 2333 01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,000 willing to put in their time and 2334 01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:26,400 interest and brains 2335 01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:28,159 and you know basically come to the 2336 01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,400 discord and help out so 2337 01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,080 i got plenty of breath i mean there's so 2338 01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,080 much organic i don't need the artificial 2339 01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:36,400 intelligence chris it's all right here 2340 01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:37,280 man 2341 01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:39,440 all right so tommy boyle once you see 2342 01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:42,080 this one right here uh he he wants to be 2343 01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:43,600 your uk tester 2344 01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,040 uh so so i just want to make him aware 2345 01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:49,760 of you he can probably contact you and 2346 01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:50,639 all right 2347 01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:53,679 yeah it's uh so sky 360 have their own 2348 01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:55,040 discord that we 2349 01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:57,840 coordinate with if you see ally so ali 2350 01:23:01,270 --> 01:23:00,000 is in the hello alley she's in the 2351 01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:01,280 comments 2352 01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,239 um she's also a moderator for them on 2353 01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:06,960 their sky 360. so if they need engine we 2354 01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:08,960 actually do they need engineers 2355 01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:10,639 uh hardware and software engineers but 2356 01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:11,760 right now i think it's actually more 2357 01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:13,679 software engineering 2358 01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:16,159 so definitely man we need it the sky 360 2359 01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:18,639 needs it it's all hands on deck kind of 2360 01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:20,719 kind of mentality 2361 01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:23,920 dig it uh nathan parting shots 2362 01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:26,000 again i'm just really excited uh for 2363 01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:27,920 what you guys are doing mainly because 2364 01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,320 you're doing something right and i just 2365 01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,080 want to you know to the folks that have 2366 01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:34,000 really come after you guys about you 2367 01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:35,600 know what you're doing 2368 01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:36,800 what are they doing other than 2369 01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:38,560 complaining exactly 2370 01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:39,360 so 2371 01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:41,600 you know i really i applaud the fact 2372 01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:44,159 that you've put this out there that it 2373 01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:46,000 is easy to see what you're doing you 2374 01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,760 know you can be it's so simple to be 2375 01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:49,360 part of the discord and participate in 2376 01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:50,639 the community 2377 01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:52,480 i think the way that you're starting 2378 01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:55,360 with the kind of the sky 360 sky 360 2379 01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:56,800 emphasis and the balloons it's 2380 01:24:01,030 --> 01:23:58,719 accessible technology 2381 01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:01,040 it's a good place to start 2382 01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:02,800 and i'm just glad somebody's doing it 2383 01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,560 right i mean who knows how long it's 2384 01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:06,800 going to be before we get stuff out of 2385 01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:09,520 galileo or stuff from nasa or you know 2386 01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:11,199 just anybody that that's trying to get 2387 01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:12,159 this 2388 01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:14,159 more information for us to take a look 2389 01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:16,800 at it the the better you know and so 2390 01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:19,040 again kudos to what you're doing i know 2391 01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:20,800 that it takes a lot of guts to do this 2392 01:24:24,149 --> 01:24:23,040 because it is new and it's 2393 01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:24,159 you're having to answer the same 2394 01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:25,440 questions over and over again i'm sure 2395 01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,800 it's exhausting 2396 01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,320 i know you put a ton of work into it so 2397 01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:30,880 again just just thanks for all that 2398 01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:32,719 no thanks for for coming as well and 2399 01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:35,199 like you've already given great inputs 2400 01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:37,360 you know because we don't know 2401 01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:39,679 how to organize necessarily the best 2402 01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:40,800 research 2403 01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:43,760 you know but but we want to we want to 2404 01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:44,560 so 2405 01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,320 come and help man like you your your 2406 01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:47,920 inputs have already been great just you 2407 01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:49,679 know asking the right questions to be 2408 01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:51,040 like oh yeah we do need to be thinking 2409 01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,679 about that so yeah it is community 2410 01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:55,280 and yeah it's been awesome having you as 2411 01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:56,960 well on there 2412 01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:58,400 yeah you're part of it 2413 01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:00,480 you really have done something like he 2414 01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:02,159 said i used to say to people on twitter 2415 01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:04,560 when they would complain oh elizondo's 2416 01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:06,400 not telling us enough and shawn and 2417 01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:08,159 melon i'd be like what are you doing 2418 01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:10,800 show me one thing you produce for the 2419 01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:13,280 community and and you get crickets you 2420 01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:14,880 know those guys have produced something 2421 01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:16,960 you are producing something you are 2422 01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,159 making something happen more so than i 2423 01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:22,480 but you know i'm just talking head here 2424 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:24,800 but you are actually producing something 2425 01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,280 and that is extremely admirable you know 2426 01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:29,280 you have steph down there working with 2427 01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:32,080 experiencers deb has been there for more 2428 01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:34,080 people than anybody knows about that 2429 01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:36,480 have called to talk with deb about 2430 01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:38,800 experiences and how to deal with it 2431 01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,400 nathan as well that's not me right 2432 01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:42,239 that's not my specialty right i get 2433 01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:44,560 people contact me but 2434 01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:46,239 it's not my thing you have to know what 2435 01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:47,440 you can do 2436 01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:49,440 but i know that we need those people so 2437 01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:50,880 yeah we need those people as well like 2438 01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:52,320 so you can 2439 01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,480 that's not my thing i'm not i don't know 2440 01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:56,639 how to help you know it's like uh 2441 01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:58,239 no you are though but you're doing it in 2442 01:26:01,830 --> 01:25:59,679 your way obviously we're all not 2443 01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:01,840 universal people able to do everything 2444 01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:03,920 we have to find what we're good at and 2445 01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:05,600 people it's so hard too the topic is so 2446 01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:07,440 difficult i mean 2447 01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:10,639 the topic is so difficult yes yes 2448 01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:14,560 very abstract yeah yeah but uh um do you 2449 01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,199 please plug uh if you and alexei would 2450 01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:19,520 plug everything if you just hang off 2451 01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:21,520 camera for a second after we close but 2452 01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:23,440 please plug everything you got going on 2453 01:26:26,669 --> 01:26:25,040 please 2454 01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:26,679 yep for us it's 2455 01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:28,800 uapsociety.com that'll give you the link 2456 01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:30,320 to the discord 2457 01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:32,080 that'll give you the link to the minting 2458 01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:33,360 site 2459 01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:35,040 so that's we try and keep it there 2460 01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:36,880 that's our web 2 portal though that's 2461 01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:38,960 the old school 2462 01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:42,159 the discord is new and and i get it it's 2463 01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:43,920 we're still early you know and that's 2464 01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:46,880 also why i feel required to act is so 2465 01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:48,560 that we can 2466 01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:50,639 put into the base coating if you will 2467 01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:52,560 the base layer that it doesn't have to 2468 01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,880 it can be for the good of people 2469 01:26:58,870 --> 01:26:56,560 not just for the good of the 2470 01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,880 organizations or the companies or the 2471 01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:00,239 governments right because that they're 2472 01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,560 coming in i mean i see them coming in 2473 01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:04,560 at the conferences 2474 01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:06,960 the suits are coming in you know and 2475 01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:08,639 and they're not really happy to be there 2476 01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:09,679 they're not 2477 01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:11,280 the passion's not there they're like 2478 01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:12,719 yeah you know i'm here we're just 2479 01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:14,400 implementing this new program to take 2480 01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:15,760 over the world 2481 01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:17,920 and we'll just make sure it it goes back 2482 01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,760 to the shareholders but they're there 2483 01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:21,120 but they're going to meet the crypto 2484 01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:22,560 people and they're like dude we're 2485 01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:25,280 changing it man the revolution 2486 01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,520 but they're there and which means you're 2487 01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:29,600 making an impact because if if you were 2488 01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:31,679 insignificant they wouldn't be there but 2489 01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:34,560 the fact that they showed up i i'd spoke 2490 01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:36,880 to these guys that adds to the metrics 2491 01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:38,639 and and those folks that are on the hill 2492 01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:40,560 they read all that they know that they 2493 01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:42,400 know that that happened 2494 01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,560 and go to a conference i mean if you get 2495 01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:46,560 a chance you don't think it's real go to 2496 01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:48,800 a go to an nft conference man it feels 2497 01:27:52,790 --> 01:27:50,639 like you're at some 2498 01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:52,800 new future age 2499 01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,920 i don't it feels like you're in san 2500 01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,040 francisco 2501 01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:56,960 you know right silicon valley spinning 2502 01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:58,560 up i mean it's 2503 01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:59,679 there's so much going it's just 2504 01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,679 happening so fast on so on so many 2505 01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:03,360 different levels that 2506 01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,120 you don't know what's going on nobody 2507 01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:07,440 can know what everything is going on so 2508 01:28:10,629 --> 01:28:09,520 it's very exciting and i certainly don't 2509 01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,639 know where it's going with you guys on 2510 01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:12,320 board man it's so awesome 2511 01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:15,440 it really helps it really really helps 2512 01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:17,840 like a million percent so 2513 01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,440 yeah please get involved we want 2514 01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,440 everybody to help and 2515 01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:23,360 if you can support if it's exciting to 2516 01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:25,679 you it's fun man i i don't know i'm i'm 2517 01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:27,760 an investor in nfts i like having them 2518 01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:28,480 uh 2519 01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:29,840 they're fun it's better than money i 2520 01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,600 think it's more fun at least 2521 01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:33,440 so anyway that's it 2522 01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:36,800 at uap society baby chris lato probably 2523 01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:39,760 and alexa sorry and alexa well alexa you 2524 01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,719 know it's probably gonna have his own 2525 01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:43,280 line of sunscreen chris maybe some hair 2526 01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:44,320 moose 2527 01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:45,280 uh 2528 01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:47,040 you know something like that i could see 2529 01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:48,400 happening and then nathan we're gonna 2530 01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:50,320 have to determine if we're changing his 2531 01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:52,880 nickname from money nathan to nft nathan 2532 01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:56,000 you know it's tough tough tough call big 2533 01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:56,800 time 2534 01:29:01,430 --> 01:28:59,120 uh give us a like and a subscribe that's 2535 01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:01,440 all that we want from you and uh thank 2536 01:29:06,470 --> 01:29:03,440 you everybody for being here for uh 2537 01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:06,480 nathan for kevin for debs for stephanie 2538 01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:10,960 for uh alexei and for my man chris lado 2539 01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:13,760 this is dj saying peace out 2540 01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:15,040 one love 2541 01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,719 and we'll see you down the road we're 2542 01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:18,400 always wondering what's up around the 2543 01:29:28,490 --> 01:29:20,130 bend